An open petition / discussion about Animation Lock and FFXIV

[Vanguard319]

real life logic != in game logic

logic is logic whether in a game or real life.

[Blarp]

and they are a path to easy mode, where no strategy is involved. No matter how you try to sugar it, your changes would make things even worse.

WoW doesn't have animation lock and their content is not easy mode. If you think it is, then I'm guessing you never did hardmode raiding when it was considered progression.

[RathSkybreaker]

oo reported to admins? For what disagreeing with you? I'm sorry your butthurt, and as far as logic = logic game or in real life, thats not true considering many things in a GAME can be altered from real life, I don't think we have an ifrit fight irl, nor do we have magic.

log·ic/ˈläjik/
Noun:
Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".
A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference: "Aristotelian logic".

:reason

Again if they want to make archers have auto lock, thats on them , but to say that its against "Logic" is wrong, but only in a video game because in a video game your supposed to be able to explore you creativity and imagination something people who want realism in everything don't understand. Its an RPG for a reason. Go play CoD if you want realism, and even that i'm sure you could find -some- flaws.

[Vanguard319]

oo reported to admins? For what disagreeing with you?

if insulting others over a debate that you weren't even involved in, and added nothing to is your definition of disagreeing with someone, then yes.

[Kailok]

On that note the lock wasn't removed from arc when it was removed from the others, logically, It is Yoshi-p's vision, that arc have it.

I don't want to feed the fire here but if Animation Lock was "Yoshi-'s Vision", then why is he getting rid of animation lock in 2.0? You -can- have archers be able to have their single-shot firing without having to lock them into an animation for 3 seconds after the damage was dealt. What you want is for archers to have to stay still in order to shoot, which is fine, but make it cancel-able in a heated situation.

And also, I'm fairly sure archers in RL were/are able to run and shoot at the same time. Sure, it might not be as accurate, but if you're in a situation where you're needing to run in order to avoid fire, then the enemy is most likely close enough for you to be able to knock an arrow, run and aim, and then release with a decent amount of accuracy instead of just aimlessly shooting them through the air. ESPECIALLY a target as big as Ifrit.

[Vanguard319]

I don't want to feed the fire here but if Animation Lock was "Yoshi-'s Vision", then why is he getting rid of animation lock in 2.0?

where did he say this? Do you have a link?

Also not to be rude, but if people are petitioning for animation lock's removal, It would suggest that it's not set in stone, and as I said earlier it would have been removed the same time as the rest.

[RathSkybreaker]

if insulting others over a debate that you weren't even involved in, and added nothing to is your definition of disagreeing with someone, then yes.

pretty sure there are no guidelines as to who can and can't enter a debate on the forums, as you know thats the whole point of them, to get opinions from everyone, and I wanted to stress my opinion that I think that I don't think archers should be like the archers we have in real life because then you have a useless class, unless they go down the road they are going down, ala bard, in which it doesn't really matter if they have it or not because they will be useless DD, as far as bards go anyway, how they take the class? Who knows, but for now it's safe to assume they will no longer be a strong DD...

and added nothing? How about reinforcement for the fact that action lock for archers shouldn't be there? In many situations it's just cumbersome.

[Kailok]

where did he say this? link?

It was in an interview and was stated multiple times in this thread. I'm too lazy to go find the exact interview right now (maybe tomorrow, too busy watching Walking Dead), but I know it's another one of those "Well...we'll fix that when problem we get better servers" topics.

[Vanguard319]

pretty sure there are no guidelines as to who can and can't enter a debate on the forums, as you know thats the whole point of them, to get opinions from everyone, and I wanted to stress my opinion that I think that I don't think archers should be like the archers we have in real life because then you have a useless class, unless they go down the road they are going down, ala bard, in which it doesn't really matter if they have it or not because they will be useless DD, as far as bards go anyway, how they take the class? Who knows, but for now it's safe to assume they will no longer be a strong DD...

and added nothing? How about reinforcement for the fact that action lock for archers shouldn't be there? In many situations it's just cumbersome.

So you don't even remember, that's kind of sad.

[Rowyne]

where did he say this? Do you have a link?

It's in the first page of this thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post460558

Taken from an interview with RPG Site:

RPGSite: With the new server systems, will the major game breaking issues such as animation lock, server lag latency, positioning imprecision, and interface lag be greatly reduced?
Yoshida: Yes, all of these things will be fixed.

Source: http://pc.rpgsite.net/interviews/327...-naoki-yoshida