An open petition / discussion about Animation Lock and FFXIV

[Dragon]

Please don't reference SWTOR, it sucks, like.. a lot.

This.

SWTOR has horrifying animation, both inside battle and outside (eg. cutscene animation), the graphics are PS2-era crap, and the questing is pathetic. Being the BioWare/KOTOR fan I am, I was utterly disgusted by it this past week.

I just want to know if the people here really are expecting to be able to cast spells and shoot bows without any sort of animation lock.

If you ask me, most of the animation lock in FFXIV makes sense. Yes, a person should stand still to shoot an arrow and cast a spell. Those kinds of things should require focus, which really isn't gonna happen when running around.

Or, are you guys arguing that there should be no animation lock in the sense that we should be able to move at all times, but doing so would cancel things like spell casts and shooting bows?

If its the latter, then I am fine with such an idea. If you guys want to be able to do anything without having to think about smart positioning and timing your actions, then I'd have to say you're just lazy and want a brainless way to win.

Exactly.

If you've no problems canceling an ability/move/spell/whatever, then yeah, you should be able to move. But simply being able to move during an animation without having to cancel whatever you're doing should never happen (except through ingame stats such as "Concentration").

[Buddhsie]

Someone find the video from SWTOR of the cutscene where that ship lands, it shows it stop in mid air for half a second before the camera changes to a different angle where it's moving again. Looks funny as hell! (And people take that game srsly!)

[Dreadnought]

Someone find the video from SWTOR of the cutscene where that ship lands, it shows it stop in mid air for half a second before the camera changes to a different angle where it's moving again. Looks funny as hell! (And people take that game srsly!)

like i said my opinion is the infallible one.

and yeah the animations arent the best. they do beat WoWs and Rifts animations though.
the questing is the same as every other MMO only with speaking cut scenes. everything else is just a standard MMO. by far not the worst out there.

you say the abilities look god awful? every single mage ability in this game is utter crap. thats why they are re doing them.... because the devs themselves agree that the abilities in this game look like crap. thats why they redid some of the melee ones not too long ago lol.

you dont like using abilities and being able to move around? thats why your stuck in the 90s with your whitenight old school RPG desires. the modern age wants action incorporated into their gameplay.

this game is very niche, and it will stay that way since so many other games coming out are pure action.
GW2, you cant argue crap about that game. the abilities look stunning and are top notch for an MMO-they surpass SWTOR by far. same with blade and soul.
oh but wait you wont be playing those because you want FF3 MMO style.
oh and plus the environments look amazing AND dont have zone lines.
"well FFXIV has the highest graphics of them all!" who gives a damn? even if the graphics are light years away the battle system is not.
you dont want an action MMO. thats the bottom line. well the rest of the world does and many many people were hoping for a lot of action elements in this game as well as a slew of other things which non came into fruition up until a few months ago. and yet were still not getting an action based battle system.

there are so many things modern MMOs offer that FFXIV does not and most likely will not.
how about the ability que? did you know you can customize how long your ability que is in SWTOR?
did you know you can turn off or on auto attack in blade and soul?

those games also have yet to proven fail or win, FFXIV has already proven fail for over a year now. if you dont like the standard MMO it doesnt give you the right to bash it based on your own opinions.
Yoshi P himself said there are certain things you dont change in video games and he used FPS games as his example. they are all the friggen same yet millions of people play each different one.

[Buddhsie]

like i said my opinion is the infallible one.

and yeah the animations arent the best. they do beat WoWs and Rifts animations though.
the questing is the same as every other MMO only with speaking cut scenes. everything else is just a standard MMO. by far not the worst out there.

you say the abilities look god awful? every single mage ability in this game is utter crap. thats why they are re doing them.... because the devs themselves agree that the abilities in this game look like crap. thats why they redid some of the melee ones not too long ago lol.

you dont like using abilities and being able to move around? thats why your stuck in the 90s with your whitenight old school RPG desires. the modern age wants action incorporated into their gameplay.

this game is very niche, and it will stay that way since so many other games coming out are pure action.
GW2, you cant argue crap about that game. the abilities look stunning and are top notch for an MMO-they surpass SWTOR by far. same with blade and soul.
oh but wait you wont be playing those because you want FF3 MMO style.
oh and plus the environments look amazing AND dont have zone lines.
"well FFXIV has the highest graphics of them all!" who gives a damn? even if the graphics are light years away the battle system is not.
you dont want an action MMO. thats the bottom line. well the rest of the world does and many many people were hoping for a lot of action elements in this game as well as a slew of other things which non came into fruition up until a few months ago. and yet were still not getting an action based battle system.

there are so many things modern MMOs offer that FFXIV does not and most likely will not.
how about the ability que? did you know you can customize how long your ability que is in SWTOR?
did you know you can turn off or on auto attack in blade and soul?

those games also have yet to proven fail or win, FFXIV has already proven fail for over a year now. if you dont like the standard MMO it doesnt give you the right to bash it based on your own opinions.
Yoshi P himself said there are certain things you dont change in video games and he used FPS games as his example. they are all the friggen same yet millions of people play each different one.

QQ? I'm sorry SWTOR isn't living up to expectations, no need to spew garbage about FFXIV.

How can you claim that there is more action in those games than FFXIV?

[RathSkybreaker]

QQ? I'm sorry SWTOR isn't living up to expectations, no need to spew garbage about FFXIV.

How can you claim that there is more action in those games than FFXIV?

IDK if I should take that last bit seriously or not, so i'll take it as a joke. -sheldon laugh-

[Kailok]

How can you claim that there is more action in those games than FFXIV?

Easily.

Rift (Though I stopped playing long ago) has it's "rifts" content, and even though it's a tad boring for ME (due to general lack of strategy required), it's still on a larger scale than anything in XIV currently.

Aion - To consider Aion, you need to look at it for what it was made to be: PvP MMO. And when considering this PvP element for Aion, raiding fortresses in the Abyss is also on a much larger scale than anything in XIV currently.

WoW - Don't really need to explain it but I will anyway: Raid content, big-ass bosses, PvP, zone phasing for more interactive storylines.

Guild Wars 2 - http://<font color="red">http://www....HPl_mEU</font> Speaks for itself. (start @50s, s'when the dragon shows up)

Even FFXI - Besieged & Campaign (from my experience up until Abyssea). Both were pretty epically scaled and felt like real action going on.

FFXIV - Other than Ifrit? Well I guess you have Garlean behest-raids...50 NPC-mobs standing around not attacking or raiding anything. Super fun. Or perhaps DH! Running through a zone making mobs chase you instead of fighting them because you have to beat Batraal with 25 minutes left to get the good chest.

While I love FFXIV, it's still lacking a considerable amount of "action". I still play, and I'm still excited to see it grow, but I'm not going to sugar coat the current state of the game with hopes and wishes. I'm going to be realistic about it, know it for what it is, and hope for the best in the future. Which is why I hope Hamlet Defense will be loads of fun.

Back on topic:

I agree with previous statements that casting/weapon skills should be cancel-able in a heated situation. If I were a PUG doing the 6-strike attack, in "reality", if I saw the ground crackling under me, I would stop as soon as I could and get the hell out of there. Same goes for Casters.