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    Personally I believe the Elementals to be Nymian "High Grand Mage" SCH egi gone rouge from the Magi-war & thus Masterless. Plus being in a pema-summoned state for so long & baring a deep grudge for Aether misuse as it maybe their reason they origionally rebealed, lead to their harsh treatment of "outsiders" as they claimed all the Forest their home especially mage-type ones, like those fleeing the fall of Ampodor who maybe Gridania's ansestors (or they got "tainted" during the war, thus turning them on their Master's like a Rampant AI with a virus, the great flood calamity could have even been a cause)... okay I might be grasping at crazy idea's there

    As for Sprite's I agree their just passive naturly built aether entites that defend themself when threatened or gone mad (like when u posion, but not enouf to kill, a RL animal it kinda goes feral attacking anything it deams a threat even nearby "ally" animals). Sprite's may even be nature's way of saying their to much of "that element" missing/around & their there to be nature re-balance tool

    Primal's are "thought givin form" with prayer & enouf "unused" aether (I say un-used cause I have yet to see someone use a high aether filled living Sprite as a mana sorce for Primal summon... which would be quite annoying if u could). Thou all are "Aether-made" its more a "How u make it" then a "what u made it with" rule for FF14... thou the thought of a boss using the Aether from defeated Sprite's to fuel a Primal/Arcane-egi summon does sound interesting in concept
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_NPC View Post
    Personally I believe the Elementals to be Nymian "High Grand Mage" SCH egi gone rouge from the Magi-war & thus Masterless. Plus being in a pema-summoned state for so long & baring a deep grudge for Aether misuse as it maybe their reason they origionally rebealed, lead to their harsh treatment of "outsiders" as they claimed all the Forest their home especially mage-type ones, like those fleeing the fall of Ampodor who maybe Gridania's ansestors (or they got "tainted" during the war, thus turning them on their Master's like a Rampant AI with a virus, the great flood calamity could have even been a cause)... okay I might be grasping at crazy idea's there
    If that was the case, why wouldn't the Elementals be chilling in La Noscea where Nym was located? Why travel all the way to the Black Shroud and Amdapor's territory? I know the three cities were in a three way war at the time but Nym for the most part was in a purely defensive war with Mhachi and Amdapor. It's a long way to travel and into deeply hostile territory for a summon to make, especially since the White Mages of Amdapor could have easily wiped them out.

    Not saying your theory's bad, just that it might have a few logistical flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_NPC View Post
    Personally I believe the Elementals to be Nymian "High Grand Mage" SCH egi gone rouge from the Magi-war & thus Masterless.
    The elementals have been said to have existed as far as before the founding of Amdapor. They've been in Black Shroud for who knows how long and they were the one who gave men the gift of white magic, and allegedly responsible to bring the Fourth Calamity. It's speculated somewhere in this forum that SCH fairies are lesser elementals, though if they can be categorized the same with the elementals of Black Shroud, is anybody's guess.

    I don't recall where this is mentioned, but I seem to remember it said that sprites, plasmoids, are actually lesser voidsents but they lack sentience and only a threat unless they're threatened first. I think it's somewhere in the lore book, the scan which I can no longer find so please correct me on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinMalvin View Post
    I don't recall where this is mentioned, but I seem to remember it said that sprites, plasmoids, are actually lesser voidsents but they lack sentience and only a threat unless they're threatened first. I think it's somewhere in the lore book, the scan which I can no longer find so please correct me on this.
    I can't find that in the EE. It only says (p. 301) that plasmoids might be machina waste energy, since they've only appeared in the aftermath of Garlean attacks, and that sprites come into being in specific aetheric conditions, that they are wholly unrelated to elementals, and that they lack sentience.
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    "Plasmoids are voidsent" was from a very old thread. (Sprites didn't exist then.)

    Eorzean scholars don't believe the same now as they did then, apparently. Must have had a meeting.
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    You are also forgetting that Elementals were way more widespread in 1.0 prior to the Calamity. They were literally in every zone. I have thought since the Calamity happened, the aetheric energies of Eorzea were way out of imbalance, so the Elementals went into hiding. However the energies that erupted from the land gave rise to Sprites. Sprites to me are a little more of energy leaking from the land and taking on an unstable form. Which is why Sprites lack a will of their own, they are just energy that has leaked out from the land.
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    yah flawed but meh it was an idea, not exactly a lore nut so I was bound to be wrong

    edit: yah missed the part were the Elemantals taught the WHM class skills to Ampodor's ppl so that 1 parts out... thou since they were there before (as lore is so far saying) then who's to say SCH Faries arn't the result of Nym "Experimenting" on a few captured elementals to make their own (might explain the hosility between those 2 sides at lest)... then... actually gona stop myself their before I snowball my idea into madness
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    Last edited by The_NPC; 02-05-2017 at 05:57 AM.
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    One thing I noticed, and most of you also did I assume, is that all sprites are bound to a crystal core. That said, Sprites are probably surges of elemental energy concentrated in/around crystallized aether, corrupted most of the time. I believe that sprites are only elemental manifestations of accidental surge magic, which is directly related to what kind of element is worshiped in said place and the environment itself. That'd explain why there is no ice sprites in any other place other than Coerthas, or why water sprites are scarce around Eorzea and concentrated mostly around wet zones like La Noscea and The Black Shroud.

    Also, you can notice similarities among similar sprites, like Fire and Lightning, both their forms being made of a glass-like structure that relates to their high temperature.
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