Quote Originally Posted by Rhodkr View Post
You can actually, you need 5 Thav oils (I think) and 5 something else's to get it. That and Vilekin are how I did my Umbrite stage.
That's for Crystal Sand. The point of the thread is that the Crystal Sand component of the step can be obtained in many different ways (if anything they were exceptionally generous about this). However, to actually upgrade the weapon you need an equal number of Umbrites. Umbrites can only be traded with Lore, so unless you happen to love rouletting (I don't) it's a very, very, very tedious impediment to being able to progress since you can only obtain it using a single currency. I've been casually working on it for ages but it's slow unless rerunning ARF and Tam Tara millions of times is your thing. Being able to use other currencies too to diversify the grind would be nice.