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[Vidu]

What am I the Pope? My 'behavior' hasn't stooped lower than what the lot of you resorted to. If you wanna talk about someones behavior, think how you would approach someoone you're not fond of for whatever reason.

I personally don't mind if someone thought of me as Mother Teressa or The Devil himself. Why? Because none of you guys on this thread are saints here and take zero accountability for what comes out of your mouths. I'm not gonna even go into who started what. This is ridiculous.

Love me or hate me, this provides nothing for what I'm doing here.

Have a good night's rest.

Wow, I'm amazed - I literally am, not even being cynical here. I am well aware I'm no saint either, but I understand that what was meant as a friendly outreach from my side in the end wasnt even welcome. I'll leave it at that - and because I dont have the time to actually quote each and every post of you: please, clean before your own doorstep before making a list of when people responded in a not-super-friendly way to you. You started this thread of with phrases like "Enlighten me with your wisdom, oh FFXIV community" when people did not agree with you and "Let the door hit you".
I see now that even kind words are wasted on you - I was actually willing to engage in a healthy discussion at that point but it seems to me more and more that all you can do is spit into peoples faces. I'll leave you like that, have a good day, sir - and should you ever require some friendly, not topic-related interaction, you're welcome to make an alt on Odin, find me and we can see where that leads us - I actually mean that.

On behalf of the topic: I think, I summed up my arguments well enough already, as far as I can tell the majority (so far) seems to rather agree with them, so... discussion closed, since all the contra-side (as in: the OP) brings to the table now are accusations and not arguments?

Still, to respond to your argument about "Convenience and Efficiency" - is that really how you view friendship? Because a convient and effient "buddy"-system is in order - it "buddies" you up with other people for raids, trials, dungeons etc. and is called the duty finder. Let me tell you that meaningful relationships between people dont form out of "Convenience and Efficiency" - and sometimes things that seem like they would be effient and conventient are just unnecessary for the majority (like, I dont know, those funny fish-shaped "tools" that help you to seperate eggs and let you save 2 seconds of your life) - this seems to be the case here. Many have expressed that they are completly satisfied with the systems we have and that they dont have a desire for yet another one. Why "fix" whats not broken? Why shift SEs view from providing a game with game content to an enviroment to find your best friend? Thats simply not what this is all about...

[Hakuro89]

Wow, I'm amazed - I literally am, not even being cynical here. I am well aware I'm no saint either, but I understand that what was meant as a friendly outreach from my side in the end wasnt even welcome. I'll leave it at that - and because I dont have the time to actually quote each and every post of you: please, clean before your own doorstep before making a list of when people responded in a not-super-friendly way to you. You started this thread of with phrases like "Enlighten me with your wisdom, oh FFXIV community" when people did not agree with you and "Let the door hit you".
I see now that even kind words are wasted on you - I was actually willing to engage in a healthy discussion at that point but it seems to me more and more that all you can do is spit into peoples faces. I'll leave you like that, have a good day, sir - and should you ever require some friendly, not topic-related interaction, you're welcome to make an alt on Odin, find me and we can see where that leads us - I actually mean that.

Just leave him, any attempt at rationality is going to fall on deaf ears. If this is how he's going to respond to everyone that speaks to him, he doesn't deserve friends.

[Vidu]

Just leave him, any attempt at rationality is going to fall on deaf ears. If this is how he's going to respond to everyone that speaks to him, he doesn't deserve friends.

Thank you, that was actually my plan from now on - I can leave this now, knowing that I tried my best to present a number of arguments to prove my point and being a decent human being.
Did I succed all the way through? Probably not, only human after all. But thats not stopping me from ending on a more friendly note here.
Vidu out, dodging any doors that might hit her.

[Fluffernuff]

I'm not even going to bother reading 13 pages of what seems like a huge hissy fit between a 'buncha people, soo... just gonna reply on the tread title/ original pitch

I don't pay monthly to play a dating sim. I pay for an RPG that I can experience with multiple people- friends and strangers alike. I've met my fair share of people that of become friends with- and closer. None of which relied on any in-game systems or having random strangers thrust upon me. or vice-versa


Frankly, you don't even need tools to find friends or romantic partners with anyway- you just need to be a halfway decent person that someone can enjoy being around.

[Newmanxeno]

Time to stop replying and let this fade away people. Or just say "No I do not want this 'Adventure Buddy Finder' system." Or yes, I guess.

[Rennies]

I think everyone here deserves an extra yaoi partner. Clefto, you'll be mine. That's an order.

[Hakuro89]

-snip-

Magic-Mal was being very civil at first, being someone with far more patience than myself. They wouldn't have gotten cynical with you if you hadn't been speaking to everyone giving you real feedback throughout this entire thread with that snobby holier-than-thou attitude.

Magical-Mal has used reverse Psychology!


It wasn't effective . . . .

Up to that point their posts were nothing but basic, common logic.

And FYI, the word feedback covers a wider range of responses than "I agree!". You dismissed every single post that was even remotely against your idea, whether they explained why or not.

To expand on Magic-Mal's feedback in particular-
(I'll be using quotations from here because it won't let me quote inside of a quote)

You- "It just makes it easier to find a potential play buddy."
Mal- "Free Company. Linkshell. A Keyboard"
-The only tools the rest of us needed to find the friends and connections we have. We didn't need a system to facilitate that. If you're unable to use these tools to do the same, either you have zero social skills or just aren't that likable of a person. And before you even start I'm well aware I'm not either, I'm a jerk and I know it. But the vast majority of the other replies here were not, at least not until you replied back to them.

You- "Or how about the fact despite us having Link Shell's and Free companies, someone just had the idea to make a thread."
Mal- "Right then let's make a system that makes it easier to play with people for duties. And an easier way to contact people in the world. Let's make a way to help newbies learn stuff. Oh wait.."
-Party finder, friends list, free companies and linkshells, novice network, and even /search and /tell if you really wanna go bare bones. A little sarcastic, yes, but the point is there- there's already plenty of ways to establish connections in the game to use.
And to expand on one of those, I'll use it as an example- the novice network. That is in almost no way functioning as its creators had intended it to. Even the mentor status. People I've seen rarely use that right, what makes you think your system would be immune to the same toxicity and deviation that the others fell victim to?

You- "Why not go a step further when the interest is clearly being shown?"
Mal- "Oh you mean the 2 other people who want this system over all who say no? Unlike the Hempen sets thread who has over 250 people supporting it."
-I can't really make that any clearer. There were 3, maybe 4 (last one sounded wishy washy) on pages 3 and 5 in support of this. The rest of the thread that wasn't you wanted nothing to do with it. The other thread in question has a mountain of support compared to your 3-4.

You- "I need more feedback and information before I do such a thing. Until then you can read on through the posts. As you should be doing anyways, for someone may have already asked and has been answered."
Mal- "Is it feedback you even want? Or just some " I agree add this!"
-This I really can't sugar coat either, and don't dismiss it just because it's me talking either. You've shot down, dismissed, and nitpicked points out of their context out of nearly every post in this thread that wasn't in direct support of this.

Then to top it all off you dismissed the same post twice as a personal attack just because it was a little cynical. You can dismiss me, call me a troll, call the moderators on me, I'm too dead inside to care. Why should I, when you don't about any opinions that were given here save for the 3 that sympathized with you?

[Cleftobismal]

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What I said about anyone's behavior in my posts is not up for debate. Everything I quoted was written not by me. I've clearly expressed I'm not interested in anybody acting like a saint on my topic.



That is all. I'm not responding to anymore posts irrelevant to the point of this thread.

Use what information I gave you to put your hearts and mind at rest. For this petty discussion is over.

[AmeliaVerves]

My opinion in short, just for SE, who might check out the thread to find out about peoples thoughts about this:

I don't think the effort to create such a tool is worth it and I will keep the "whys" short, because they have been mentioned many times before:

• A whole lot of other ways to get in contact with players are already given.
• FCs/Linkshells/Friendlist are there to make and stay in contact with friends.
• Age restrictions? (is an important point when it comes to 'dating' stuff)
• Might be interesting for people doing RP, but those have their tag and Linkshells as well (pretty sure about it, since I don't RP myself).
• If someone is not good with interacting with people, how should such a tool change that?

Of course you can argue against my points, but this is a very personal and therefore limited point of view and just my opinion. I would rather see SE reworking some other parts of the game that are already implemented, but far from good yet (inventory or housing).

In the end, if SE would decide to implement something like this. Fair enough, it will not harm me or the way I play, so I'm fine with it, but I will sure not be sad if it will never happen.



Just a tiny bit of off topic:
I don't know OP and I haven't read everything that was written in here, but I read the very first and last pages and OP seems as if he wants to have proofes given to the statements of others.
Of course there are none (not like: written down there or wherever), but they speak out their experiences and their opinions. Why should anyone "proof" their believes and thoughts?! ._. Confusing...

BTW OP didn't proof his points as true either, so all this drama is really weird. xD

[TiaHariberux3]

Both sides had a terrible behaviour in this thread not just OP tbh.

You may agree or disagree to a system like this thats fine but comments like the quicksand one etc. are just meh (yes I found it funny kinda but still). Yes OP want people to agree with him and even if he didnt liked your argument for some "reason" it doesnt mean you can personal attack him cause of his past posts in the marriage hookup thread etc. You know you all should have just stopped caring/posting instead of making posts that have nothing to do with OP.

So as a person without a partner I dont really care if such a feature gets into the game or not since you dont have to use it at all it wouldnt hurt anyone. The game wouldnt turn suddenly into a dating sim or smth there could be several reasons for people to use such a feature instead of the thread (better view, faster etc.). I bet there is quiet amount of people with social anxiety (lot of ppl who play MMOs have that) who would like such a feature or just a buddy feature whatever but are afraid of posting it here or on the marriage thread. Yes you can find someone randomly ingame but like irl most of the time it doesnt come out of nowhere if you dont intend to make a relationship you most likely will never found one no matter how many times you go outside etc. dating apps/sites are there for a reason and gain more popularity nowadays because it got harder to find said relationships in our society.

Dev resources isnt a valid argument either because there is always stuff that doesnt benefit you or most of the playerbase but still gets into the game.

To OP please learn to accept other opinions no matter how bad or good the arguments might be in the end people wont change their opinion (in rare cases maybe). Even though it shouldnt be a matter in this thread its there for one reason to let YOU find a partner agree or disagree but its the truth. You cant expect spamming on a hookup thread will give u magically a relationship in fact did you ever considered to talk someone on this thread? ingame?