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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    Players in FF 14 really low skilled in most of the part. Why?
    1) Class quests don't teach anything
    2) LEveling in Palace doesn't teach anything- how to play by your class
    3) Content become MORE and MORE casual
    In the end we have the situation-- the skill of players degrade more and more every each patch, SE think, that content is hard and make it more easy, skill degrade more, SE nerf more and so on and so on. It is an endless circle of nerfing. Soon the game will be the casual Sims about housing and glamours

    Right now lots of players still wipes on OZMA!!! Easiest boss ever!

    Dear SE, please, fix this situation, make the players to play better!
    This cannot be emphasised enough. Heavensward has progressively gotten easier to the point of absurdity. Very little requires more than pressing a couple button, thus when they do release something of moderate challenge people can't do it. Now even the extreme primals have become pushovers. Although I do like Sophia, she's far from difficult. And Zurvan is laughable. Instead of gradually trying to improve player skill, the devs seem wholly content to baby. It's not entirely surprising people are getting bored.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    Players in FF 14 really low skilled in most of the part. Why?
    1) Class quests don't teach anything
    2) LEveling in Palace doesn't teach anything- how to play by your class
    3) Content become MORE and MORE casual

    In the end we have the situation-- the skill of players degrade more and more every each patch, SE think, that content is hard and make it more easy, skill degrade more, SE nerf more and so on and so on. It is an endless circle of nerfing.
    This is the primary issue of the game. Yoshida doesn't seem to understand, that he is killing the game by doing it this way. I think there is a connection between "make conten more and more easy" and the constant decreasing number of subs.

    Did Sohm Al HM yesterday the first time. Did it as Scholar. Didn't know anything of that dungeon (blind run). Tank was also new. I was nearly the entire time in cleric stance. Nobody died or was close to die. This is not how a dungeon should be. I'm really missing dungeons like the original Amdapor keep back in 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    This is the primary issue of the game. Yoshida doesn't seem to understand, that he is killing the game by doing it this way. I think there is a connection between "make conten more and more easy" and the constant decreasing number of subs.

    Did Sohm Al HM yesterday the first time. Did it as Scholar. Didn't know anything of that dungeon (blind run). Tank was also new. I was nearly the entire time in cleric stance. Nobody died or was close to die. This is not how a dungeon should be. I'm really missing dungeons like the original Amdapor keep back in 2.0.
    It's really telling when you talk to players who have long moved on. Told a friend of mine the new meta for 60 dungeons is tanks pulling the entire room which horrified her since she heals. I then mentioned how easy dungeons have become and if I didn't, she would have spent the entire time spamming Holy.

    Sohm Al HM does seem a little better about massive pulls, but I doubt I'll need more than a cooldown to handle it.
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    Faeon Nightwhisper
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    Ragnarok
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    This will always be a problem, since it's new fight and FFXIV cators for the casual player since that is where the money is.

    Now you are lucky that you get to play for sixteen hours or so, and commit to clearing that content ASAP, but for some they only have four hours or two so they are not going to have the time to have everything waxed.

    This is just the way things are, if it is really that frustrating then you might be better off finding another game maybe, or just not bother.
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
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    In some cases the skill level for today's players are really low because they just don't seem to really try or even learn how to use their selected Jobs to it's full potential.

    Tho with new content it does take some time to learn the mechanics and in alot of cases even when they do know the fight the problem is trying to remember the mechanics of the fight while focusing on the fight
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Does nobody find it funny that the OP had 16 hours to dedicate to a fight first day and was mad that others weren't as trained as her?

    I dunno, I think it's funny.
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    Olli Sr
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Does nobody find it funny that the OP had 16 hours to dedicate to a fight first day and was mad that others weren't as trained as her?

    I dunno, I think it's funny.
    Tho, we are talking about Zurvan Ex. A fight that requires 20 to 40 minutes to learn.
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Monk Lv 90
    I havn't get a chance to try extreme yet because most cross-pf set minimum ilv at 265-268 for learning party and 270 to clear or farm.
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Why is it always people from Gilgamesh with the "everyone's bad but me!" attitudes?
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    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Why is it always people from Gilgamesh with the "everyone's bad but me!" attitudes?
    Gilgamesh is the unoffical raiding server in Aether. So as you would guess, the elitists tend to gravitate towards it like moths near a patio light. I fully support this because it keeps them out of other servers

    Anyway in regards to the OP, why not just do it with your static? I'm sure you guys are as great as you say you are, so why even bother with those plebs in PF right?
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    Last edited by ToasterMan; 01-19-2017 at 11:30 PM.

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