People are already speedrunning Sohm Al (Hard)

[shweppers]

I am not surprised unfortunately..this happens literally every patch and it's worse with expansion. Just today my husband and I got into Baelsar's and the tank left immediately upon seeing 3/4 new people. Nothing you can really do about elitists except try to ignore them and pray that you don't have to deal with them in anything you try running. It should die down in a week or so..

I too wish they wouldn't be like that but it's anywhere you go.

I still don't understand why the DutyFinder doesn't have a selection for what kind of run you're looking for:
- Speedrun
- Casual
- RP
- Don't care

If you want the fastest queues, you say Don't Care. Otherwise, you can trade queue times for the type of run you really want to do.

[Vulcwen]

People will queue for "Don't Care" when they want to speedrun, it's faster after all. So this idea is pointless.

[bounddreamer]

We were speed running it blind on patch day with my pre-made. We are all geared for savage and it's not hard.

I'd never kick someone for being new, but unless someone asks me to explain stuff, I'm pulling everything I can, and if I see someone is new, the ready check IS your chance to ask for mechs.

[Zampp]

It's not a speedrun anymore. It's just how you do things. Sohm Al (hard) is very deliberately designed for you to be pulling to the wall every time. SE is not dumb. They know how people play dungeons now, and they design around it. So if you're not doing that, you're just bad. It's not elitism, it's literally you not playing the game as effectively as you're expected to.

The design is on purpose...But that does not mean its not shit design and really bad direction for the game to go.

[Zampp]

Que times will be split more and become longer.

[Callinon]

The design is on purpose...But that does not mean its not shit design and really bad direction for the game to go.

Why is that?

If your group can pull to the wall you pull to the wall. If they can't you don't, it's that simple. In the 3ish days the dungeon has been available I've done it both ways and it's been fine. I agree that a design encouraging people to pull the entire dungeon (like some of the early ARR HMs) doesn't feel great especially if your group can't manage that. But why isn't this a good compromise?

[Deathgiver]

I still don't understand why the DutyFinder doesn't have a selection for what kind of run you're looking for:
- Speedrun
- Casual
- RP
- Don't care

If you want the fastest queues, you say Don't Care. Otherwise, you can trade queue times for the type of run you really want to do.

Can see it now: Queue Speedrun, get 2 bards. Bard 1 spams single target attacks only, bard 2 refuses to use wander's. 2 minutes to kill first big pull, 1 minute in tank is out of cds, healers out of mp for nuking. Bard 1 "This is supposed to be a speed run, why are you in tank stance?," Bard 2 "Healers just healing, wtf"

[Immut]

I still don't understand why the DutyFinder doesn't have a selection for what kind of run you're looking for:
- Speedrun
- Casual
- RP
- Don't care

If you want the fastest queues, you say Don't Care. Otherwise, you can trade queue times for the type of run you really want to do.

Probably because every one of those besides "Speedrun" is really just "being bad at the game".

[Claire_Pendragon]

That BGM is something out of Star Ocean.

It originated from FFXIV 1.0
its the default battle music in Thanalan.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

Not gonna lie, I love speed runs (assuming the party can handle it lol), way more fun! There is nothing worse than a SMN getting stuck with small mobs, because 3 enemies, or 20, they'll all die at around the same speed. XD

Although I'm sad to hear you got kicked as a newbie. That's not ok. If rest of party isn't ok pulling big it's not a major hardship to slow it down.