Thread: Revelations from Patch 3.5

Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren

MSQ I mostly agree to everyone's thoughts about the story, but the one part that really had me wondering..

I'm super curious as to why Tataru and her buddies did measurements on the WoL (our character) o.o

I assumed we are FINALLY getting an outfit sewn for us as well?
It's been such a constant complaint that she makes new outfits for all her friends but never for us! I think the devs may have finally given in to all our whining? X)

(Or I just WANT to believe that and they plan something entirely different..)

Dun Scaith:

As with the other two raids in the series I found the place to be very atmospheric. I liked the boss fights too - Ferdiad was dealt with once and for all, as was Diabolos. I expected some sort of twisted love story between Diabolos and Scathach so it was an interesting twist for him to simply absorb her power to increase his own. It does make sense given the nature and history of Voidsent though.

I do wish we'd learned more about Mhach itself though. It's pretty tragic that Dun Scaith was meant to be a safe haven for the survivors of the big flood that brought Mhach to ruin.

I liked how the Sky Pirate storyline was wrapped up. It implies that we may work with the Redbills again at some point in the future and with Radlia having survived and expanded the Talons I could see the rivalry being another point of interest in the future.

Cait Sith surviving was pleasant too. It leaves her open to showing up again if there's Voidsent to be dealt with. I know a recent interview apparently confirmed that there may be 'more' to the raid series. I wonder if that simply refers to a new storyline in the future involving the characters we got to know or if there's something else tied to Mhach that we'll be dealing with.

Main Scenario

I had expected Ilberd to be the Griffin. What I did not expect was how extreme his plan was. I see now why Elidibus said he was most worthy of inheriting Nidhogg's eyes, as Ilberd was just as deranged as the great wyrm. Now the question remains is what deity his blood sacrifice has wrought. Rhalgr? Griever? Shinryu? Watching it hang in the East Shroud sky like a greenish-white Dalamud is unsettling, though for some reason it isn't visible from elsewhere in the Black Shroud. Now we just wait for Omega to activate.....

Oh and as for Tataru, I think she's going to make an outfit for the Warrior of Light.

Warring Triad

Regula's nobility was hinted before with some of his dialogue in "Fate of the Stars", and he made good points about primal sealing being ultimately a flawed solution. It became quickly apparent he was going to die to Zurvan, and sure enough he got struck down by the halberd.

Zurvan himself however was kind of underwhelming, especially compared to Alexander in the last patch or Diabolos in Dun Scaith. For being a personification of "Victory" and infinity, it didn't seem all that special. Overall, I think my favorite of the Triad is Sephirot, especially given the implicit connections to nature and white magic.

Unukalhai later confirmed the origin of the voidsent as detritus of the Thirteenth World. It is rather poignant given what happens in Dun Scaith, and when combined with Regula's dying speech, makes it seem like the primals are the true enemy rather than Garlemald.

Dun Scaith

Not quite what I expected. Scathach, despite her colossal coffin, what ultimately a lithe gothic warrior woman. The fight against Diabolos was quite showdown, especially in contrast to the Cloud of Darkness. Only thing not explained was the meaning of the "Hollow" suffix.

His actions really emphasize what Unukalhai said about the Thirteenth World ultimately choosing a cycle of self-destruction as the Flood of Darkness approached. Though I wonder what led to that downward helix from the realms champions. Is it an inherently corrupted aspect of primals that leaked out of auracite, turning them predatory? Or was it something more cultural, as a result of Igeyohrm progressively tilting the balance extremely towards darkness?

Dun Scaith

Knew Diabolos would end up being the final boss. I was not expecting him to go DBZ on us with the "beam" struggle and then his fusion with Scathach though! For the run where we finally made it past Scathach it felt like Diabolos was somewhat easier...probably because a good couple of the mechanics were showcased in the previous fight. People had to learn to do those to make it past basically.

Cait Sith still being around is also wonderful, more so with everyone down in the dumps thinking we'd be losing yet another character after their "story" was done. Instead even if SE doesn't take advantage of them again we can atleast rest assured they are having adventures of their own out there.

Hildibrand

It was okay, got a couple chuckles. Probably the best part was seeing Cyr's character development...though I'm pretty sure he'd be able to stay in Ishgard even if it would take some testimony from the WoL. But hey, he gets to live a free life in a gazebo so all is well! As for Gigi the Vivi we will almost certainly see him wake up in a sidequest come either 4.0 or 5.0. It MIGHT not involve Hildy if it happens in 4.0 but if it isn't till 5.0 Hildy will for sure be back for it.

Scholasticate

I'll admit to not suspecting Lebrassoir as part of this, though honestly I should have realized after seeing Archombadin going off on him. It is nice to see that the two might be able to patch things up though. The true culprit of course was pretty easy to pin down before we even needed to start trying to piece it all together. All in all the Scholasticate was not the most exciting of side quests, but I believe they ended it pretty well and a new 4.0 sidequest storyline will benefit from what the devs have learned here.

3.5 part 2 speculation!

Tataru will have her clothes ready for us. It'll either be considered the ugliest thing in the game or be so popular that thread complaining about people wearing the same glamours is gonna get more replies.

GC Alliance and Garlean both will end up going after Omega in an attempt to take out that new unknown primal. The Garleans of course will be trying to capture it for their own use similar to Gaius with Ultima, while the GCA would presumbably want to try and get the damn thing to disperse back to the aether after its contained. They may also think about trying to undo the barrier Papalymo put over it prior so we could deal with it (and honestly if that is true may have been the better idea), but Nero (rightfully maybe) calls them out for relying on us again to solve their problems. Using Omega could just as much trying to be self-sufficient as it is getting rid of the primal. As well I do think whatever the outcome here Nero IS trying to help take out the problem instead of trying to use it for his own gain...but we'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by Belhi

Funfact: I had a look of the edge of the Wall while doing the raid and spotted the Garlean building on the bridge from the Stormblood area screenshots. No mountains with holes in them though.

Oh yeah, I noticed that too
Pointed it out to my party mates all excitedly, they called me a nerd and left the instance..xD

Some thoughts:

MSQ:

Our 'friend' Laurentius is gonna have some trauma issues over what he did, I think. I wonder if he'll get a redemption arc later on.
And is it too suspicious of me to think that Naago is shady? Her 'trustworthy' message ended up being just bait to set up Ilberd's plan.