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    Atoli's Avatar
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Funfact: I had a look of the edge of the Wall while doing the raid and spotted the Garlean building on the bridge from the Stormblood area screenshots. No mountains with holes in them though.
    Oh yeah, I noticed that too
    Pointed it out to my party mates all excitedly, they called me a nerd and left the instance..xD
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Jenova
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    Main Scenario

    I had expected Ilberd to be the Griffin. What I did not expect was how extreme his plan was. I see now why Elidibus said he was most worthy of inheriting Nidhogg's eyes, as Ilberd was just as deranged as the great wyrm. Now the question remains is what deity his blood sacrifice has wrought. Rhalgr? Griever? Shinryu? Watching it hang in the East Shroud sky like a greenish-white Dalamud is unsettling, though for some reason it isn't visible from elsewhere in the Black Shroud. Now we just wait for Omega to activate.....

    Oh and as for Tataru, I think she's going to make an outfit for the Warrior of Light.


    Warring Triad

    Regula's nobility was hinted before with some of his dialogue in "Fate of the Stars", and he made good points about primal sealing being ultimately a flawed solution. It became quickly apparent he was going to die to Zurvan, and sure enough he got struck down by the halberd.

    Zurvan himself however was kind of underwhelming, especially compared to Alexander in the last patch or Diabolos in Dun Scaith. For being a personification of "Victory" and infinity, it didn't seem all that special. Overall, I think my favorite of the Triad is Sephirot, especially given the implicit connections to nature and white magic.

    Unukalhai later confirmed the origin of the voidsent as detritus of the Thirteenth World. It is rather poignant given what happens in Dun Scaith, and when combined with Regula's dying speech, makes it seem like the primals are the true enemy rather than Garlemald.


    Dun Scaith

    Not quite what I expected. Scathach, despite her colossal coffin, what ultimately a lithe gothic warrior woman. The fight against Diabolos was quite showdown, especially in contrast to the Cloud of Darkness. Only thing not explained was the meaning of the "Hollow" suffix.

    His actions really emphasize what Unukalhai said about the Thirteenth World ultimately choosing a cycle of self-destruction as the Flood of Darkness approached. Though I wonder what led to that downward helix from the realms champions. Is it an inherently corrupted aspect of primals that leaked out of auracite, turning them predatory? Or was it something more cultural, as a result of Igeyohrm progressively tilting the balance extremely towards darkness?
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Dun Scaith

    Knew Diabolos would end up being the final boss. I was not expecting him to go DBZ on us with the "beam" struggle and then his fusion with Scathach though! For the run where we finally made it past Scathach it felt like Diabolos was somewhat easier...probably because a good couple of the mechanics were showcased in the previous fight. People had to learn to do those to make it past basically.

    Cait Sith still being around is also wonderful, more so with everyone down in the dumps thinking we'd be losing yet another character after their "story" was done. Instead even if SE doesn't take advantage of them again we can atleast rest assured they are having adventures of their own out there.


    Hildibrand

    It was okay, got a couple chuckles. Probably the best part was seeing Cyr's character development...though I'm pretty sure he'd be able to stay in Ishgard even if it would take some testimony from the WoL. But hey, he gets to live a free life in a gazebo so all is well! As for Gigi the Vivi we will almost certainly see him wake up in a sidequest come either 4.0 or 5.0. It MIGHT not involve Hildy if it happens in 4.0 but if it isn't till 5.0 Hildy will for sure be back for it.


    Scholasticate

    I'll admit to not suspecting Lebrassoir as part of this, though honestly I should have realized after seeing Archombadin going off on him. It is nice to see that the two might be able to patch things up though. The true culprit of course was pretty easy to pin down before we even needed to start trying to piece it all together. All in all the Scholasticate was not the most exciting of side quests, but I believe they ended it pretty well and a new 4.0 sidequest storyline will benefit from what the devs have learned here.


    3.5 part 2 speculation!

    Tataru will have her clothes ready for us. It'll either be considered the ugliest thing in the game or be so popular that thread complaining about people wearing the same glamours is gonna get more replies.

    GC Alliance and Garlean both will end up going after Omega in an attempt to take out that new unknown primal. The Garleans of course will be trying to capture it for their own use similar to Gaius with Ultima, while the GCA would presumbably want to try and get the damn thing to disperse back to the aether after its contained. They may also think about trying to undo the barrier Papalymo put over it prior so we could deal with it (and honestly if that is true may have been the better idea), but Nero (rightfully maybe) calls them out for relying on us again to solve their problems. Using Omega could just as much trying to be self-sufficient as it is getting rid of the primal. As well I do think whatever the outcome here Nero IS trying to help take out the problem instead of trying to use it for his own gain...but we'll see what happens.
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    Ashley Osteichthyes
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    Ravana
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    Personal biggest revelations, there are samurais and they come from Doma. Not really a spoiler, but it officially exists within the game...and I'm probably too late to the party and everyone already knew.
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    When you have lag, every action is an adventure.

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    Nialle Velandieux
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    Some thoughts:

    MSQ:
    Our 'friend' Laurentius is gonna have some trauma issues over what he did, I think. I wonder if he'll get a redemption arc later on.
    And is it too suspicious of me to think that Naago is shady? Her 'trustworthy' message ended up being just bait to set up Ilberd's plan.
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nialle View Post
    Some thoughts:

    MSQ:
    Our 'friend' Laurentius is gonna have some trauma issues over what he did, I think. I wonder if he'll get a redemption arc later on.
    And is it too suspicious of me to think that Naago is shady? Her 'trustworthy' message ended up being just bait to set up Ilberd's plan.
    I still want to punch the little punk.
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    Aigiarn Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nialle View Post
    Some thoughts:

    MSQ:
    Our 'friend' Laurentius is gonna have some trauma issues over what he did, I think. I wonder if he'll get a redemption arc later on.
    And is it too suspicious of me to think that Naago is shady? Her 'trustworthy' message ended up being just bait to set up Ilberd's plan.
    Well, it was technically true.
    And it is possible that Ilberd counted on people close to the Scions to run off to tell them. Her wounds were sufficiently severe enough that it took two of the Scions to heal her, and there's no reason to doubt her, especially given Yda vouched for her.
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Oh, and I forgot to bring this up in my last post, but here's a little more on the Main Scenario, from the localization end of things:
    In addition to cutting a few whole minutes worth of expository information available elsewhere and (intentionally?) changing the translation of Raubahn's "fortune favors the bold" catchphrase to the more accurate "victory favors the swift," Papalymo drops a bombshell in his final line that is unstated anywhere in English:

    "Farewell, my second partner."

    I'm starting to think that Yda is an impostor, but one who's actually been around for quite a while. Perhaps the twin switch has already happened, and it was 15 or so years ago?

    Either way, this may simply be a side effect of them effectively cutting the quest chain in half after all the writing was done, and the usual redistribution of information that a certain Ahriman loves ended up leaving the big reveal until the next part.
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    Mieck Corcoczeck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Oh, and I forgot to bring this up in my last post, but here's a little more on the Main Scenario, from the localization end of things:
    In addition to cutting a few whole minutes worth of expository information available elsewhere and (intentionally?) changing the translation of Raubahn's "fortune favors the bold" catchphrase to the more accurate "victory favors the swift," Papalymo drops a bombshell in his final line that is unstated anywhere in English:

    "Farewell, my second partner."

    I'm starting to think that Yda is an impostor, but one who's actually been around for quite a while. Perhaps the twin switch has already happened, and it was 15 or so years ago?

    Either way, this may simply be a side effect of them effectively cutting the quest chain in half after all the writing was done, and the usual redistribution of information that a certain Ahriman loves ended up leaving the big reveal until the next part.
    Continued MSQ thoughts based on the above
    On the twin switch theme... Papalymo made the remark about Yda's mask near the end of 3.4, I don't have the exact quote to hand, but he was starting to realise there were problems in giving Yda a mask.
    Which, I agree Fenral, could make it possible that we have never known Yda at all. That this is her sister, masquerading as Yda, and has been doing so for 15 years or more.

    Yda/maybe-not-Yda nearly jumped out of her skin when Gundobald recognised her in 3.4. Her mask was damaged in the escape from Ul'dah, but replaced quickly (though, I accept, that is as much for the continuity as for anything else). Gundobald thought it was her because of the mask? Or in spite of it?

    If Yda died a long time ago, what might her sister's reasons be for impersonating her? How important was Yda to the fallen royal line? I know we've had good circumstantial evidence on that front, but has there ever been anything truly concrete?
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    Last edited by Mieck; 01-18-2017 at 10:52 PM.

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