If parsing is needed to clear challenging content then why is it not in the game?

[Cherie]

If you want a answer from the devs on whether or not knowing your dps numbers are important for clearing savage/extreme mode content well you already have one.

After having a record number of low clear numbers for the first tier of alexander, they released "stone sea sky" in patch 3.2 with the release of alexander midas and it's savage content. So they may have reservations about adding a parser but they still think you having the information is important/helpful for clearing the content (even if they aren't going to give you exact numbers and just tell you if pass/fail).

I am not gonna touch the "parser or not politics" with a 10 foot pole any deeper as I'll just leave it up to the devs and what they want as that is the sensible thing to do. I AM saying however that the devs seem to think dps numbers matter to clearing content as adding "stone sea sky" was a response to poor savage clear numbers. Personally I'd prefer a parser as it was what I had in Rift, WoW and other mmos but I'm not one to insist that FFXIV be like other games...even if I'd prefer it.

[SargentToughie]

Exactly.

People need to learn to do without the crutches and stand, walk and run on their own.

Yeah, just like how report cards are a crutch when you're in school. No wonder today's youth all eat paste. They should learn to stand, walk, and run on their own.

[Moonlite]

To the other game with built in parsing. It was convenient when you wanted to make X player level mage or shaman and dump hunter. Now that I am older I think that was kind of a jerk move. But it helped clear stuff. It seemed that most statics clearing raids in a consistent manner used it to dump weak classes. Because most statics in the past were people you knew or had taken through older content to gauge skill level.

To the why it isn't in the game. A recent and good example, ask the feast players if they can chat in game. SE does not or can not moderate this game to the scale needed. So they find other solutions. If players can't be trusted to use basic communication (per SE current system), how do you expect them to use a tool like a parse.

[Leanna]

I wonder why people hates useful information so badly. I would like to have an in-game parser, so I can't stop asking people from my static to test things.

[Underdog2204]

Know what else isn't "needed"? Showing how much gil you have, you don't need it and you can just guess.

If you can't buy something them boom you need to make more, if you can then it doesn't matter... That's the logic we are going with right?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Know what else isn't "needed"? Showing how much gil you have, you don't need it and you can just guess.

If you can't buy something them boom you need to make more, if you can then it doesn't matter... That's the logic we are going with right?

I mean, you can see if you have enough DPS, the boss dies. If he doesn't, and you fail to kill adds/it in time and it enrages, then clearly your dps isnt high enough.

[Underdog2204]

I mean, you can see if you have enough DPS, the boss dies. If he doesn't, and you fail to kill adds/it in time and it enrages, then clearly your dps isnt high enough.

Mine or someone elses? Or multiple peoples?

You can't answer any of these questions, which is kinda silly since there are 4 dps in the group and none of them can see how they are performing on an individual level. You can only improve yourself individually and you cannot do that if you don't know there is something wrong.

[Aamalthea]

Your presumption fails at the "If", because a parser is not actually "needed" for clearing challenging content - yet. The ACT plugin for triggers is getting pretty borderline and if SE designs fights with the assumption that people use it in the future (i.e. lower the time you have to react to make up for that advantage), it likely will become de facto mandatory.

That aside, well...we have at least a dozen of parser threads already, so I'll leave it to the rest of the forum to argue forward and back and then forward and back and then go forward and back and put one foot forward and back over and over.

I /clap and also <3 you.

[Kosmos992k]

Yeah, just like how report cards are a crutch when you're in school. No wonder today's youth all eat paste. They should learn to stand, walk, and run on their own.

That's some pretty good hyperbole putting a parser on the same level as a school report card. Though to take your thought, a parser is more like a pointless pop quiz, your raid wide completion might be a close analog to a report card.

[Yeol]

Parse is a tool that will give you feed back on your performance.
We have SSS (Stone, Sky, Sea) to measure your performance based on time and HP.

Sadly SSS does not provide you with some knowledge. Like your crit rate and misses.

You cannot improve your rotation without knowing how much dps you are making now. Because there are no base numbers to compare your dps to. Parse it self is not needed to clear content. But it helps a lot if player is looking to improve.

We've seen many people saying that they follow a certain guide made by soneone but they are still unable to reach the same dps numbers. Not even close. Parse helps you see that you are still doing something wrong.

Again, it is not needed to clear content.