Why are most players content with putting on generic glamour?

[Serilda]

IAnd if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me!

I would actually like this fixed on the developer's end, because I play all three healers regularly and have to use the same glamour on each of them (or use JSE to have two, but that's sort of cheating and relies on liking the JSE and wanting to use that as a glamour set). It would be wonderful to have three completely different ones and it would mean carrying less random items of clothing around with me everywhere for relaxing in, but the game design doesn't make it easy. You may want to dismiss race/sex/class lockouts and other limitations in favour of blaming the players, but there's no denying that these exacerbate the problem greatly. The people crying that (say) female-locked clothing makes people more 'unique' ignore the fact that it lowers the pool of options we all have to choose from to mix and match things which don't look utterly terrible with other pieces we want to base a glamour on.

Furthermore, the storage problem is real. The desire to match things is real (so many great HW dungeon pieces are undyeable and only available in brown, which isn't a colour I like). There's a head piece I have been trying to get (dungeon drop) since I first started the game, and I've still never had it drop and go to me

How do we decide who is allowed to wear the coat and the bustier, anyway? First to glamour it right after patch day gets to rep it? Or is it just completely off limits to everyone to avoid offending the Eorzea fashion police? If someone likes the aesthetic and glamours it to all of their PVE/PVP sets on all jobs that just means the team needs to work on more items with that aesthetic. It's not the player's fault for thinking they look gorgeous in a cool-looking coat.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the game gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly roes are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only Ureaus Coat and Thavnair Dress qualify?
I mean, I get it. It looks nice, it shows off a lot of skin, it reminds us of dancer, etc.
And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just Thavnair Dress all the way,
no matter if you are on healer or tank or melee or mage. And that's just flatout boring.

13 "unique" glamours that I find aesthetically repulsive might as well not exist as options for me. Want more variety in glamours? Make stuff that more people don't find ridiculous or flat out ugly looking. I know much of the ire towards "overused" glamours is directed at females, but males have even less options if you want to avoid wearing a dress.

I do change outfits based on class/job though.

WHM & SCH (and eventually AST) use a white dyed Uraeus coat, Royal Breeches from CT, some black dyed Linen Halfgloves, and black dyed Kirimu Boots of Healing. The Uraeus coat is the one "long" chest piece I can tolerate in the game. All the rest can go burn in a dumpster somewhere for all I care.

For Gladiator I'm currently using a black dyed Wind Silk Coatee chest piece coupled with the Thancred modish pants and boots and Haurchefant's shield from the questline. It looks nice without being a dress or tunic. It doesn't look like heavy armor sure, but I find it far more aesthetically pleasing than my other options and frankly thats all that matters. Anyone else's opinion can go burn in the dumpster with all those pseudo-dress "unique" glamours.

For Marauder I'm currently using the Galerus chest piece with Falconer's Bottoms, Survival Boots, and the Miqote racial gauntlets. It gives me a gladiatorial semi-armored look that's not a dress, not over embellished or bulky and shows some skin.

For Rogue, the starter Miqote chest and pants, coupled with black dyed Linen Halfgloves and Lominsan Soldier Boots, fits the bill easily. It has a very swashbuckler feel to it. I currently use the same set for my crafting gear, though I am considering buying the Cid outfit from the shop for that purpose.

For gathering I use the South Seas Talisman, Extreme Survival Slops, Expeditioner's Moccasins, and those black Linen Halfgloves again. The talisman is a bit bare for my liking but I like a lil sexy/skin and the tattoo is a nice touch. He looks very "outdoorsy" chopping down trees and mining up ore.

The biggest thing you can see from my outfits though is that they use almost no class-restricted pieces. That's one of the biggest roadblocks to my glamour options. I can deal with iconic job specific gear like the awesome lvl 50 Dragoon Set (which I will surely be using for my Dragoon glamour when I level it) being restricted. But more generic stuff thats just restricted to DoW or DoM really throws a wrench into my options. Especially since probably the most opportunities to escape a "dress" lay within that area (though still with few options). Ultimately I want to see more non-class restricted, non-dress, non-tunic, non-long-dangling-crap, non-bulky/poofy, non-overly embellished, options. That will increase variety in glamours I guarantee.

[Reinha]

It doesn't matter that you play a Roegadyn...

It doesn't matter you play a female one...

Doesn't matter that you pick a less common face and carefully coordinate your hair color and makeup...

There will always be a doppelgänger.



It was actually interesting to meet someone with almost the exact same aesthetic taste, and I learned that we're never really as unique as we think we are. It's not a bad thing. The fact that someone likes what you like should be embraced and not something that makes people dislike what they find beautiful.

[Nirokun]

Errhm... Looking at someone's Lodestone is not a way to know someone's style... People have more than one job <.<

I have BRD, DRK and SMN and only SMN(the one that shows on the Lodestone) has a dress.

Also, you completely ignored the point of her post in favor of useless picking on the glamour. Anyone can come and say your glamour sucks. Keep that in mind.

I've been googling ppl's names just to see their current glamour. Given that I can only see the one glamour, it's really all I have to go on, and I thought it was kind of hypocritical to have that kind of character/glamour and say there are no options unless all gear is unlocked for glamour purposes. Being a catgirl in a dress set with a flower in her hair, all basically dyed the same color, does not a fashionista make.

As far as someone saying my glamour sucks, it's their opinion, but I never said I was dissatisfied with the system and complained about lack of options. My first post in the thread was about player's, as described by the OP, lack of creativity. I never complained about the limitations, and even posted a picture of my glamour that I'm proud of wearing.

That was sort of her point. Also, she has the punching gloves so she's got a good sense of taste.

I also logged out in matched gear all the same colour so feel free to dismiss my fashion sense too

I like punching gloves, but I find them incongruous with the outfit. There's no appearance of gold on the gloves anywhere else in the outfit, and the same color is on everything. I talked about these things in my original post in the thread.

As far as your glamour, I'm casting a dismissive glare. Same color on everything, oversaturation. (Again, in my original post.)

That's the point? There isn't much I can really wear that I like on my tank? (Well, besides my China Dress, which I love to death).

There are things I'd like to change, like wearing the booties that casters can wear, and even the new Garo body piece and skirt for the healers on my tank, but more than likely, I won't be able to, cause it's all most likely restricted to healer classes and jobs.

How can I set the pace, or break away from the crowd, if I am just as restricted as said crowd?

P.S: I know you weren't trying to be rude and I understand xD

I'm not saying you should change your personal tastes, a lot of people like the same thing (hi chocolate!). I don't know how, as a tank, you don't like anything other than the Chinese dress. I feel like tanks have a lot of options, more so than mages (hi, I'm a mage), and yet so many female characters show the most skin possible and/or wear dresses whenever possible.

I don't know how you're supposed to break away from the crowd when you, like many (many!) others, like the same old thing (which is dress glamours). If ever there is a new dress, it will be instantly popular by catgirls who will dye it white/black/pink, then dye the rest of their gear/hair to match to me supremely matchy-matchy and go afk in Idyllshire.

And hey, not everyone needs to break the mold. Diamond engagement rings are popular, and most women wear those. Do I find them boring? Absolutely, but I'm sure they would look at my purple sapphire with alexandrite halo in white gold (small, colored stone custom jeweler <3) and not even see it as an engagement ring because societal standards. And you better believe that I'm smug about my ring and not falling into the diamond gang.

[Cherie]

Is anything really a unique glamour? I mean I spent millions making myself the dyeable poncho but like... MANY people have it and the materials are expensive and hard to get. Just because I spent 18million on my outfit does that mean it's unique? No... it really doesn't mean anything. I wanted the outfit, so I got the outfit. I thought it looked kind of neat as there weren't many "loose" outfits prior and it seemed to go good with a "gunslinging" MCH or BRD outfit... You know, good old spagetti western style!

It doesn't matter what drop you farm really... About the "rarest" drops in the game are the ones you can't farm in a single day or get very lucky with. Having a full set of the (now dyeable) alexandrian armor might be the posh thing to have now but even that, among other raiders isn't that cool really and the people that don't raid aren't really going to notice what you have or know what it is so they won't care either. To people who aren't familiar with raiding you just have on yet another one of the many alexandrian outfits from one of the tiers so they probably won't even know it's the current tier stuff. (Though I would love to finish off my set for the sake of completion....THE OCD COMPELS ME!)

In the end, it's best to just wear what you think looks good.... even if it's some low level drop from old content or some jacket that everyone else wears. If you like it, that's what matters.

[Underdog2204]

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You are just full of contradictions tbh... So people lacking creativity is a bad thing and is enough to turn you nose up at? You wanna be a special snowflake (in your own mind) coz it makes you feel important? It's either one or the other.

You cannot force creativity on people anyway, it's a trait just like intelligence is.. Some people have bundles, some have none and most are middling between. Smugness over thinking alot of people liking one thing and you wanting to "break the mold" coz you are so special points out an character flaw I find far more lacking than a percieved lack of creativity.

Ohh you like a popular video game? Why arn't you writing a book or painting a masterpiece? That must hurt your hipster sensibilities... Or does this rule only extend to other people and what you personally do and do not like? :P

[DreamAngel-Ren]

I admit it, I hate it when someone wears the same outfit as me (no matter how much I love the outfit). I usually mix and match to create a whole new attire that I know my character would adore wearing.

[Konakyun]

You are just full of contradictions tbh... So people lacking creativity is a bad thing and is enough to turn you nose up at? You wanna be a special snowflake (in your own mind) coz it makes you feel important? It's either one or the other.

You cannot force creativity on people anyway, it's a trait just like intelligence is.. Some people have bundles, some have none and most are middling between. Smugness over thinking alot of people likeing one thing and you wanting to "break the mold" coz you are so special, points out an character flaw I find far more lacking than a percieved lack of creativity.

Ohh you like a popular video game? Why are you writing a book or painting a masterpiece? That must hurt your hipster sensibilities... Or does this rule only extend to other people and what you personally do and do not like? :P

Drag her!!!!

[hallard]

It doesn't matter that you play a Roegadyn...

It doesn't matter you play a female one...

Doesn't matter that you pick a less common face and carefully coordinate your hair color and makeup...

There will always be a doppelgänger.

I had something similar happen, a guy joined my FC and it turned out he was one of the OTHER 5 people on my server playing femroe, but his looked more like a sister than a twin.

[Atoli]

Not mocking you, just trying to make a point about people in general.

I found that to be funny, because I actually do feel that way in real life as well
(except for the "standards from 50 years ago" part, because we absolutely do have standards today too, you can't just show up to your job in your clubbing outfit,
unless you WORK at a nightclub..but no one will stop you from showing up to your tanking duties in FFXIV wearing only a bikini, if you want that)

Posts like this make me want to glamour everything I own to Thavnair Dress out of spite. I glamour my stuff for me. Not for anyone looking at my character. If someone hates the way my character looks it's their own personal problem and frankly makes me enjoy that look all the more.

Well if you want to be childish and do things out of spite that's on you..^^
You obviously do feel defensive about your glamour choices though, otherwise why would you even be replying to this?
If you don't care what I think, let me call your outfit boring all I want, since it's nothing to you, isn't it?
Actually, now that I think about it, I'd love it if you glamoured all your gear in a certain way just because of me..( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
(Just joking, don't take this too seriously)

I would actually like this fixed on the developer's end

I absolutely agree; it's frustrating for glamour enthusiasts that it's only about twice per expansion that we actually have seperate sets for each class (and when we do, gearing up is a nightmare, even though it allows for more glamour options).
The lack of dyeability for most gear is a problem too and I know not everyone has the motivation to farm content for a long time just for glamour either.
And, if course, some pieces just are more visually pleasing to the majority than others so it's natural they are worn more often.

But just because it makes sense does not mean I don't find it boring and therefore a waste of potential ._.


@no one in particular:
I just really like interacting with other players based on their glamour, I made most of my ingame friends through our shared love for glamour;
and I love seeing an interesting, unique piece in someone else's glamour that I want to use to and build my own glamour around (yes, I'm usually at the max limit for gear sets..xD).
Even when it's things I could never see on my own character, it's just wonderful to see the careful craft that went into doing something that fits their specific character perfectly,
in a way that is more than just "sexy catgirl showing off her sexual organs as much as possible". But hey, it's not like I'm calling for a ban on certain glamours or anything xD
I just feel sad when I see it, and if you feel happy seeing your character that way, good for you. Doesn't change my feelings though.