Why are most players content with putting on generic glamour?

[Atoli]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the game gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly roes are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only Ureaus Coat and Thavnair Dress qualify?

I mean, I get it. It looks nice, it shows off a lot of skin, it reminds us of dancer, etc.
And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just Thavnair Dress all the way,
no matter if you are on healer or tank or melee or mage. And that's just flatout boring.

[Clethoria]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the modern world gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards from 50 years ago too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly men are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only yoga pants and jeans from Macy's qualify?

I mean, I get it. It looks nice, it shows off a lot of figure, it reminds us of magazines, etc.
And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is worn by every. single. person. I. see...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique combinations, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just yoga pants all the way,
no matter if you are on the job or going to class or hanging out or at home. And that's just flatout boring.

Not mocking you, just trying to make a point about people in general.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the game gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly roes are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only Ureaus Coat and Thavnair Dress qualify?

I mean, I get it. It looks nice, it shows off a lot of skin, it reminds us of dancer, etc.
And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just Thavnair Dress all the way,
no matter if you are on healer or tank or melee or mage. And that's just flatout boring.

Posts like this make me want to glamour everything I own to Thavnair Dress out of spite. I glamour my stuff for me. Not for anyone looking at my character. If someone hates the way my character looks it's their own personal problem and frankly makes me enjoy that look all the more.

[Atoli]

Not mocking you, just trying to make a point about people in general.

I found that to be funny, because I actually do feel that way in real life as well
(except for the "standards from 50 years ago" part, because we absolutely do have standards today too, you can't just show up to your job in your clubbing outfit,
unless you WORK at a nightclub..but no one will stop you from showing up to your tanking duties in FFXIV wearing only a bikini, if you want that)

Posts like this make me want to glamour everything I own to Thavnair Dress out of spite. I glamour my stuff for me. Not for anyone looking at my character. If someone hates the way my character looks it's their own personal problem and frankly makes me enjoy that look all the more.

Well if you want to be childish and do things out of spite that's on you..^^
You obviously do feel defensive about your glamour choices though, otherwise why would you even be replying to this?
If you don't care what I think, let me call your outfit boring all I want, since it's nothing to you, isn't it?
Actually, now that I think about it, I'd love it if you glamoured all your gear in a certain way just because of me..( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
(Just joking, don't take this too seriously)

I would actually like this fixed on the developer's end

I absolutely agree; it's frustrating for glamour enthusiasts that it's only about twice per expansion that we actually have seperate sets for each class (and when we do, gearing up is a nightmare, even though it allows for more glamour options).
The lack of dyeability for most gear is a problem too and I know not everyone has the motivation to farm content for a long time just for glamour either.
And, if course, some pieces just are more visually pleasing to the majority than others so it's natural they are worn more often.

But just because it makes sense does not mean I don't find it boring and therefore a waste of potential ._.


@no one in particular:
I just really like interacting with other players based on their glamour, I made most of my ingame friends through our shared love for glamour;
and I love seeing an interesting, unique piece in someone else's glamour that I want to use to and build my own glamour around (yes, I'm usually at the max limit for gear sets..xD).
Even when it's things I could never see on my own character, it's just wonderful to see the careful craft that went into doing something that fits their specific character perfectly,
in a way that is more than just "sexy catgirl showing off her sexual organs as much as possible". But hey, it's not like I'm calling for a ban on certain glamours or anything xD
I just feel sad when I see it, and if you feel happy seeing your character that way, good for you. Doesn't change my feelings though.

[Clethoria]

I found that to be funny, because I actually do feel that way in real life as well
(except for the "standards from 50 years ago" part, because we absolutely do have standards today too, you can't just show up to your job in your clubbing outfit,
unless you WORK at a nightclub..but no one will stop you from showing up to your tanking duties in FFXIV wearing only a bikini, if you want that)

There's a time and place for everything. Even without a strict uniform, expectations are to be made as per the occupation and the image the company wants to uphold.

[Serilda]

IAnd if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me!

I would actually like this fixed on the developer's end, because I play all three healers regularly and have to use the same glamour on each of them (or use JSE to have two, but that's sort of cheating and relies on liking the JSE and wanting to use that as a glamour set). It would be wonderful to have three completely different ones and it would mean carrying less random items of clothing around with me everywhere for relaxing in, but the game design doesn't make it easy. You may want to dismiss race/sex/class lockouts and other limitations in favour of blaming the players, but there's no denying that these exacerbate the problem greatly. The people crying that (say) female-locked clothing makes people more 'unique' ignore the fact that it lowers the pool of options we all have to choose from to mix and match things which don't look utterly terrible with other pieces we want to base a glamour on.

Furthermore, the storage problem is real. The desire to match things is real (so many great HW dungeon pieces are undyeable and only available in brown, which isn't a colour I like). There's a head piece I have been trying to get (dungeon drop) since I first started the game, and I've still never had it drop and go to me

How do we decide who is allowed to wear the coat and the bustier, anyway? First to glamour it right after patch day gets to rep it? Or is it just completely off limits to everyone to avoid offending the Eorzea fashion police? If someone likes the aesthetic and glamours it to all of their PVE/PVP sets on all jobs that just means the team needs to work on more items with that aesthetic. It's not the player's fault for thinking they look gorgeous in a cool-looking coat.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the game gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly roes are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only Ureaus Coat and Thavnair Dress qualify?
I mean, I get it. It looks nice, it shows off a lot of skin, it reminds us of dancer, etc.
And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just Thavnair Dress all the way,
no matter if you are on healer or tank or melee or mage. And that's just flatout boring.

13 "unique" glamours that I find aesthetically repulsive might as well not exist as options for me. Want more variety in glamours? Make stuff that more people don't find ridiculous or flat out ugly looking. I know much of the ire towards "overused" glamours is directed at females, but males have even less options if you want to avoid wearing a dress.

I do change outfits based on class/job though.

WHM & SCH (and eventually AST) use a white dyed Uraeus coat, Royal Breeches from CT, some black dyed Linen Halfgloves, and black dyed Kirimu Boots of Healing. The Uraeus coat is the one "long" chest piece I can tolerate in the game. All the rest can go burn in a dumpster somewhere for all I care.

For Gladiator I'm currently using a black dyed Wind Silk Coatee chest piece coupled with the Thancred modish pants and boots and Haurchefant's shield from the questline. It looks nice without being a dress or tunic. It doesn't look like heavy armor sure, but I find it far more aesthetically pleasing than my other options and frankly thats all that matters. Anyone else's opinion can go burn in the dumpster with all those pseudo-dress "unique" glamours.

For Marauder I'm currently using the Galerus chest piece with Falconer's Bottoms, Survival Boots, and the Miqote racial gauntlets. It gives me a gladiatorial semi-armored look that's not a dress, not over embellished or bulky and shows some skin.

For Rogue, the starter Miqote chest and pants, coupled with black dyed Linen Halfgloves and Lominsan Soldier Boots, fits the bill easily. It has a very swashbuckler feel to it. I currently use the same set for my crafting gear, though I am considering buying the Cid outfit from the shop for that purpose.

For gathering I use the South Seas Talisman, Extreme Survival Slops, Expeditioner's Moccasins, and those black Linen Halfgloves again. The talisman is a bit bare for my liking but I like a lil sexy/skin and the tattoo is a nice touch. He looks very "outdoorsy" chopping down trees and mining up ore.

The biggest thing you can see from my outfits though is that they use almost no class-restricted pieces. That's one of the biggest roadblocks to my glamour options. I can deal with iconic job specific gear like the awesome lvl 50 Dragoon Set (which I will surely be using for my Dragoon glamour when I level it) being restricted. But more generic stuff thats just restricted to DoW or DoM really throws a wrench into my options. Especially since probably the most opportunities to escape a "dress" lay within that area (though still with few options). Ultimately I want to see more non-class restricted, non-dress, non-tunic, non-long-dangling-crap, non-bulky/poofy, non-overly embellished, options. That will increase variety in glamours I guarantee.

[Vaeria]

Honestly, I do think it is a bit sad how the game gives us so much freedom of self-expression without having to worry about society's standards too much
(yes, yes, I know, burly roes are still not allowed to wear the maid outfit, but you can put on a skirt if you want to, so let's not delve into that topic too much),
and yet people mostly use that freedom to all wear the same anyways, as if their taste/imagination is so limited that only Ureaus Coat and Thavnair Dress qualify?

And if it is ONE of people's outfits, great! But when it is glamoured onto every. single. class. they. play...it just pains me to see so much potential wasted.
Like, you could have had 13 unique glamours, and within these, I'm sure there would be some that surprise and inspire me! But no, it's just Thavnair Dress all the way,
no matter if you are on healer or tank or melee or mage. And that's just flatout boring.

Gotta say..I agree. But PLEASE, don't shoot me just yet lolol.


To put the OPs words in peaceful terms w/o stepping on anyones toes (thought it was just a general observation really) me will use the crayon arguement again. Ya give kids in a classroom each a box of 250 crayons...supersize and tell them to use em and draw whatever appeals to them! Personal expression go! Yet...when you come back an hour later....60% of the kids have used just 2 crayons....and of that 60%....90% drew the same subject. Did they follow the assignment? Yes. Did they express their personal creativity? Yes. Would the casual observer who walks by and gives nothing more than a surface glance be struck by the sheer diversity of each picture? Most likely not.

Think alot of people responding here are taking the OPs words as a personal attack upon individual preference. "I have a right to wear w/e I want, other peoples opinions be damned dammit!" Thats not the issue. Put simply, purely from an artistic standpoint:

...its just ...refreshing? to see variations, different flavors, styles, varieties etc. Creativity in full bloom.


Its an established no brainer fact that everyone has the right to express themselves as they choose, regardless of what other people think of it. Its just that when a great majority do the same thing (or overall identical with small differences) its..... *there are no right words here w/o me getting someone pissed off lol*

The game's called Final Fantasy. Means that for 2-3, 4-5, 10+ hours a day w/e amount of time ya play, ya get to stop being an everyday Al Bundy shoe salesmen and get to be a badass warrior, a stealthy ninja, or a sagely yet strangely alluring magician etc., something different from the norm. I think the OP and above one are simply asking when you have the luxury of really transforming yourself into something 'eyecatching' why just settle for something every other person is doing?

"Because thats just me and my style!!"

Okay *sigh* Me give up. To each, his own I guess lol.


Ona side note, me has always been a fan of oldschool jrpg knight armors (Lufia, Record of Lodoss War, Legend of Dragoon, Ronin Warriors etc) and really wish they'd lift restrictions on cross class glams so I can go beat up stuff with cool clanky armors on. The devs did a pretty bang up job with some of the new pvp gears (though I wish too they'd drop the skirt/dress armor, I ended up attaching one myself ironically)