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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    If we are being technical Endgame just means content that exists at max level after the completion of the Main Launch Story.
    It clearly is not endgame because that is not the end of the game. It was at one point. It no longer is. Endgame is transitional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    With each patch, we get a minimum of:
    • One large raid (either 8-man or 24-man)
    • Two BRAND NEW dungeons
    • One 8-man boss fight (primal/MSQ)
    • Thoroughly voiced, well-written MSQ quests
    • Side quests
    • Improvements to many systems
    • Bug fixes
    • Advancement of the Relic weapon
    • Lots of new gear

    Other enhancements have included: enhancements/additions to crafting and gathering, enhancements/additions to existing in-game features (e.g. Diadem, housing, the feast, camera), UI enhancements, new features, and more.

    All of this comes on a remarkably consistent schedule of once every 3 months.

    There's plenty to do.
    Think you may have missed a key word here: endgame.
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    If we are being technical Endgame just means content that exists at max level after the completion of the Main Launch Story.
    It clearly is not endgame because that is not the end of the game. It was at one point. It no longer is. Endgame is transitional.


    I feel like we've run into a paradox here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinMetsu View Post
    I feel like we've run into a paradox here.
    Sorry, I haven't gotten to the bugfix final boss yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    With each patch, we get a minimum of:
    • One large raid (either 8-man or 24-man)
    • Two BRAND NEW dungeons
    • One 8-man boss fight (primal/MSQ)
    • Thoroughly voiced, well-written MSQ quests
    • Side quests
    • Improvements to many systems
    • Bug fixes
    • Advancement of the Relic weapon
    • Lots of new gear
    For most of us, those don't last more then a few days (if not less), other then the usual time-sinks like relics or tome-grinding or the hardcore stuff like raiding... >x>
    I just don't understand this whole "post a Chore List" mentality people have when someone says they have nothing to do that interests them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    It clearly is not endgame because that is not the end of the game. It was at one point. It no longer is. Endgame is transitional.
    I may be mistaken, but endgame in my understanding is simply content added at the end of the existing content, for players to experience once they have completed all that pre-existed.

    By that definition, all of what I stated counts as endgame content.

    Based on what you and the OP are saying, though, you want WoW's massive, spanning raid tiers with 3-4 levels of difficulty and gear bloat. To which I say no thank you. I'll take my dress-up Barbie, beautiful encounters, and splendid storytelling any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    I may be mistaken, but endgame in my understanding is simply content added at the end of the existing content, for players to experience once they have completed all that pre-existed.

    Based on what you and the OP are saying, though, you want WoW's massive, spanning raid tiers with 3-4 levels of difficulty and gear bloat. To which I say no thank you. I'll take my dress-up Barbie, beautiful encounters, and splendid storytelling any day.
    I'd say yes, you are mistaken. Both on what the most used definition of endgame is, and on what I want. I even mentioned Diadem in an earlier post. That is obviously not a massive raid tier or something.
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