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  1. #941
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    What uniqueness?
    It's what the forum moderator referred to it as when they posted in this forum thread, and I didn't know what else to call it.

    Instead of SE wasting their time and going back to remove race-lock, why not just move forward and create more unique, high quality items? Regardless, I don't see unlocking Hempen gear as a big deal - how often do you see anyone actually wear any of it? I see it as a waste of time and clearly so do SE because this still isn't a thing/they're in no rush to make it happen.

    Currently its "Remove the race-lock Hempen gear, it's unfair" then for the next 4 years it'll be "Remove gender-lock for Hempen gear, it's sexist and homophobic" It's a continuous pattern and there's other things the design team should be focusing on, this is not a priority.
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    When did the forums become the Limsa aetheryte plaza?
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    Always has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I’m against unlocking the Hempen sets. Preserving uniqueness and adding more race-locked items would be great though.
    You’re a viera. You do realize Female Viera hempen outfit is literally a copy and paste of the Hyur Midlander Female’s, right?
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  5. #945
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint View Post
    You’re a viera. You do realize Female Viera hempen outfit is literally a copy and paste of the Hyur Midlander Female’s, right?
    Considering you're the 3rd person to mention that to me in the past 2 hours, yeah - I think I got that.

    If you read my previous response you'll see why else I don't care for unlocking the Hempen set.
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    I don't mind it, considering that other than the actual race starting gear there isn't much differentiating the gear that the races wear. Hell the fact that the Hempen shirt looks so amazing on female Elezen is one of the best things about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Instead of SE wasting their time and going back to remove race-lock, why not just move forward and create more unique, high quality items? Regardless, I don't see unlocking Hempen gear as a big deal - how often do you see anyone actually wear any of it? I see it as a waste of time and clearly so do SE because this still isn't a thing/they're in no rush to make it happen.
    Simple enough, those "more unique, high quality items" require more work than resizing these, and you still have the same quantity result of one more top that your character can wear.

    It's not wasting time if people want it, and the item models already exist so theoretically they can just work whatever magic they do when they create gear for basic human shape first and convert it to fit all the other races.

    Plus the items would get more use overall if everyone had access to every style, because that means there are seven chances for the designs to work with your glamours instead of one. (Really, have you seen how nice the Elezen camise looks? Or Miqo'te being a simple halterneck top? I think they would get a lot of use.)

    Also, some races just get stuck with weird hempen outfit styles and it would be nice for them to not be walled in to only having that one style available.


    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Currently its "Remove the race-lock Hempen gear, it's unfair" then for the next 4 years it'll be "Remove gender-lock for Hempen gear, it's sexist and homophobic" It's a continuous pattern and there's other things the design team should be focusing on, this is not a priority.
    Would that be an actual problem? Aside from a number of the male styles being physically unviable for female bodies within the game's rating, at least...

    I think it would be less likely to happen, though. More redesign work for the devs, and I think people would be calling for it now if they wanted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I’d be down for this if the hempen stuff was actually race specific in the first place. Or if it reflected racial roots better. The majority of them are just generic clothes. Several are identical.

    Nothing about my wild bondage wear really screams “Highlander” to me.
    I certainly agree.
    But I'll still wanna hold on to what little we've got. Maybe one day we'll have more racially fitted things.
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  9. #949
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    It's what the forum moderator referred to it as when they posted in this forum thread, and I didn't know what else to call it.

    Instead of SE wasting their time and going back to remove race-lock, why not just move forward and create more unique, high quality items? Regardless, I don't see unlocking Hempen gear as a big deal - how often do you see anyone actually wear any of it? I see it as a waste of time and clearly so do SE because this still isn't a thing/they're in no rush to make it happen.

    Currently its "Remove the race-lock Hempen gear, it's unfair" then for the next 4 years it'll be "Remove gender-lock for Hempen gear, it's sexist and homophobic" It's a continuous pattern and there's other things the design team should be focusing on, this is not a priority.
    First paragraph - fair enough. I stand by not seeing the racial lock adding much in this case, because there's nothing about them that really screams a certain style beyond "casual" or "cutesy" or... borderline lingerie I guess lol (at least for the female versions anyway).

    To the rest of your points, I don't really see it as a big deal or a priority either. It's just something that would be nice and that I'd personally like to see. I don't see why they can't add new items and also refit these though, even if it takes longer.

    It also isn't about fairness for me, it's just about having a preference for the looks. I actually really like the fem Miqo and fem Midlander versions, but I very rarely play Midlander and have fantasiad back and forth between Miqo, au ra, and Viera (when available) for years. I'm not a fan of the au ra version because it's a little more frilly and works with fewer glamours, but I can do a lot with the other two. I especially use the hempen shirt a lot when I'm fem Miqo. I'd like to be able to use it when I swap, and especially think it'd look good on Viera. Who are already sharing a look anyway.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Hand over your Hempen Camise Elezens.
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