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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    That would be alot of lines to create for all those NPCs. Other than our characters, Ishgard is 100% Elezen and Hyur. Our character specifically doesn't seem to be able to interact with anyone. However, NPCs acknowledge gender.
    Well, obviously not every NPC would comment on your race.

    Tbh I don't think this would add that much. It would be just 1 line then never brought up again. That's how this game is.
    That's why you make it a recurring theme. It'd be a cumulative experience as the more you talk to pay attention to dialogue, the more you learn about how the world views each and every race. Again, not every NPC has to mention it, but one or two once in a blue moon would do wonders.


    You can find the information about gods in the character creation window. Highlanders are always talking about Rhalgr. Lalafells are always talking about Nald'Thal. Limsa Lominsa is essentially a Seawolf city plus all the other people. And they have their god. I would explain the Ul'dah stuff but you'd be better off going to the Lore forum. As for Miqo'tes and Meracydia, certain items in-game have this information. But, all can be found in the Lore Forum.
    My mistake, I was reading the description for the gods themselves and not the specific clans. None of the gods' descriptions make mention of a specific race, but rather certain areas. Also, whenever a god is mentioned, it's not because of a specific race, but rather where they live currently. Obviously, one could change religion, but again, my original point is that is virtually zero information on these races before their arrival in Eorzea. Who they worship was merely an example. Did every race everywhere worship the Twelve? Did they have their own names for them?


    Huh? People in Gridania are still salty about Duskwights, the Ixals, and Hyur vs Elezen issue.(Also see that Archer Elezen guy in the guild. Very proud of his culture). Elezens and Hyurs weren't together at first. They clashed.

    Ishgard has an entire story of where they came from.

    Ul'Dah is dealing with a ton of issues. Too many to list here...
    I'll gladly give the Elezen point. That was great. We need more of that. The controversy in Ul'dah has nothing to do with race and has always been about poor vs rich. The point about Ishgardians is moot as, again, while it did a nice job of setting up Ishgard, it ultimately did nothing to add anything of substance to the background of the PC races which is the heart of my argument.

    This does happen in-game. In the Ninja questline, the NIN guy Oboro didn't know how to greet an Eorzean. He had no idea how to even wave. He could only bow. He eventually learns how to wave.

    Yugiri had no idea what a Primal was. And had to learn how Eorzea worked.

    Kan-E Senna makes mention of the adventure when you take her to the Churning Mists.

    Lucia, needed a guide just to go to Anyx Trine because she didn't even know where she was going.

    Ysayle talked about Moogles when she first saw them. There are more examples.
    Okay, the NIN example sheds a tiny bit of light on Au Ra. 1 race down? A lot more to go. The Kan-E Senna and Lucia examples have little to do with race and more to do with the face that they themselves have never ventured out that far. Same thing with the Y'sayle example. Moogles are a rare sight to everyone. They've done a great job of fleshing out Moogles though. If only they put the same care into the player races.


    No it's not. A kanga is a very culturally-specific piece of clothing. Not a tank top or panties. A kanga is equivalent to the Ixali gloves or the Vanu suits or the Fortemps Rose Shield. Something you can't just get for 200 gil at "Merchant and Mender". As I said, you can't buy a kanga at the dollar store.

    Can't be answered. But we KNOW that they don't where anything even related to racial gear when we see them and we never see any race sleep in undergarments.

    Sure. But they don't matter because they don't exist right now.
    And once again, this is the point. We hardly know anything about these races so who can say one way or the other?



    They are poor, may have or may have not been orphaned, or owe her money(can't pay because poor). Rowena is giving them a job
    So she opens these fancy shops, but then let's people, who apparently dress like hobos, work at the counter?


    Just saying. Your statement made it out like the general conclusion(to me) was to keep it locked and it isn't. So was just stating the facts.
    You know that's not what I meant. My statement was very clearly referencing the people who wanted to keep it locked and only those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    Okay, the NIN example sheds a tiny bit of light on Au Ra. 1 race down? A lot more to go. The Kan-E Senna and Lucia examples have little to do with race and more to do with the face that they themselves have never ventured out that far. Same thing with the Y'sayle example. Moogles are a rare sight to everyone. They've done a great job of fleshing out Moogles though. If only they put the same care into the player races.
    That is because the other races live already since many thousand years together.
    The Miqo'te were the last race that reached Eorzea before the Au Ra, and that was during the 5th umbral era (they wandered the frozen ocean until they reached Eorzea). Ishgard closed the doors not long ago, during the time the Garleans began to raise. Before that they were in contact with the other cities.
    The culture is not race specific anymore after living together for such long time, but more regional specific.

    In 4.0 we will learn another regional culture, in the highlands of Gyn Abania

    edit: hmm
    what would you people think about starter city specific gear? Gear that only those can equip who started in the specific city.^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The culture is not race specific anymore after living together for such long time, but more regional specific.

    edit: hmm
    what would you people think about starter city specific gear? Gear that only those can equip who started in the specific city.^^
    Well, I have my Monoa Mask. It has some cultural significance to forestborn Gridanians, having been carved from consecrated lumber rendered up by the Guardian Tree, and given only to those chosen to serve as the Emissary in the Greenbliss ceremony.

    Of course, it actually looks no different than a lot of other wooden masks in a similar style that anyone can wear. But I'd even regard that style of mask as being Gridanian, considering the only NPCs we see it on are Wood Wailers (though even they usually just use the smaller half-mask version).
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