Please fix or remove housing!

[MomomiMomi]

You do realize that people can argue without being personally invested, right? I sure hope you do.

I'm really not taking it personally. I don't care what you think. I have my three houses. I stated it because I don't care if people dislike that I have three houses.

If you choose not to be at it at all, SE will demolish it after some time, and make it available.

No they won't because all I have to do is enter my house once every 45 days. I'm still not using it, though. I'm keeping it just to keep it. If I can do this with one house, then why does having three change it? I'm not using one, I'm not using three. The only difference is that I have three and not one. Conclusion: Not using my house is not the reason it's unfair.

What makes me even more upset about it, is that you can't even fully appreciate all 3 houses at a single time, because your singular avatar is only capable of being actively played INSIDE OF ONE AT A TIME.

There's another reason why this is a poor argument. Other people can enjoy the houses even if I can't, because they're FC houses. And so even if I'm not there, another FC member can be. Or are you going to say that an FC shouldn't have a house if the FC leader is never there?

[Evol]

You do realize that people can argue without being personally invested, right? I sure hope you do.

I'm really not taking it personally. I don't care what you think. I have my three houses. I stated it because I don't care if people dislike that I have three houses.

Yes I do, but reading into things and assuming, tells me you are personally invested - at least with regard to your debate with me. With regard to the rest of your above statement: that is perfectly fine, I understand.

No they won't because all I have to do is enter my house once every 45 days.

You know as well as I that I am talking about if you choose to NEVER go to your house. That would imply over 45 days. I've been nothing but literal in every single post, unless otherwise stated.

Conclusion: Not using my house is not the reason it's unfair.

I agree, its NOT the reason WHY. But it IS UNFAIR. I don't really care whether you care or not. That's not the point. The reason why it is unfair? SE didn't implement it properly. SE needs to fix it.

There's another reason why this is a poor argument. Other people can enjoy the houses even if I can't, because they're FC houses. And so even if I'm not there, another FC member can be. Or are you going to say that an FC shouldn't have a house if the FC leader is never there?

You most certainly have not read everything I've disclosed in this thread - and you certainly don't have to either.

However, you are assuming yet again what my argument actually is. So I'll break this down into smaller pieces:

1. A FC house has been - since the first post - more important to me than personal houses. I will admit I assumed your 3 houses were your personal houses - I am sorry for that assumption. However, you allowed everyone who reads this thread to think so.

2. An FC is entitled to 1 house. If your other 2 FC houses are personal houses you allow FC members access to - then you are a troll. You know exactly what I'm trying to say and are simply arguing for the sake of arguing. That is trolling. If your other 2 FC houses are 2 other FCs of yours, then you're no different than those I mentioned earlier, who would take the time to do things like ranking up extra FCs on alts just to be able to get extra houses. Its greedy. You showed everyone your greed. Oh well. Not to mention, having more houses for an FC than SE intended people to have - even if nothing in-game stopped you from doing so - is using the facilities in a way that SE never intended players to use them. IMHO its violating terms just as abruptly as selling a plot to a player in-game.

3. Just as strongly as I feel you shouldn't have 3 houses when other people don't have an option for 1 - I feel you should not have 3 FC houses when other FCs don't even have the option for 1.

4. Your FC members can only be in one house at a time just the same as you. So it changes my argument none. Why should your FC have access to 3 houses, when they can only ever truly enjoy 1 of them at a time - while other players and FCs don't even have the option for 1?

Conclusion: Its not your fault. You are not the reason. Yet, you are a perfect example of how the system IS UNFAIR. <---That is a +1 to my argument ---> which is that the housing system, is unfair.

I hate to say this but I'm not going to respond to another senseless stab at my person. Let's keep this thread on topic please. I understand you might like to reply to this particular post - that's fine, but I am done arguing with you. You already agreed its unfair, everything else null & void.

HF

[Clethoria]

There's another reason why this is a poor argument. Other people can enjoy the houses even if I can't, because they're FC houses. And so even if I'm not there, another FC member can be. Or are you going to say that an FC shouldn't have a house if the FC leader is never there?

As a FC owner, and as someone who wants an entire estate separate from it- I agree. I do not fault my members for putting their own spin on the place, but it's not what I would personally want to call my own. My room in the estate is more of a joke room for people to enter. But for my own needs a M sized estate would do nicely. I could decorate it, and I know that there will be some one who enjoys house touring as much as I do somewhere out there to see it.

Even if the owner doesn't log in for a month, doesn't mean they didn't put love and effort into it. And I'm quite sure the amount of players buying up homes and leaving them 100% empty just to say "screw you" is at low number. I'm on a very populated server so getting a home that isn't in The Goblet is a rarity. But I still held out and managed to snag one.

[Evol]

As a FC owner, and as someone who wants an entire estate separate from it- I agree. I do not fault my members for putting their own spin on the place, but it's not what I would personally want to call my own. My room in the estate is more of a joke room for people to enter. But for my own needs a M sized estate would do nicely. I could decorate it, and I know that there will be some one who enjoys house touring as much as I do somewhere out there to see it.

Even if the owner doesn't log in for a month, doesn't mean they didn't put love and effort into it. And I'm quite sure the amount of players buying up homes and leaving them 100% empty just to say "screw you" is at low number. I'm on a very populated server so getting a home that isn't in The Goblet is a rarity. But I still held out and managed to snag one.

I agree too, its nice and enjoyable huh, but that doesn't change the fact that it is unfair. There shouldn't only be a select few who get to own one and enjoy those perks.

My point is simple: Grats on having a plot. I'm sure you don't like the idea of giving it up. Yet, there are thousands that won't get to have the same enjoyment as you, who pay the same sub you do. Those people, won't give a crap if you lose that plot - in fact they'd be happy for it, especially if they won't ever get one either. Just the same as you don't give a crap that we don't have a plot, because you have one.

Rather than justifying greed, claiming you don't give a crap, or saying its lame to ask for the system to be removed until its implemented properly (much like they are doing with diadem atm); Why not relate, as you can - I'm sure - see the point on both sides. I'm not saying you are doing any of those things...its more of a generalized comment for all lol.

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I could potentially hold out and eventually get one too, but someone (and I mean thousands of someones) will be left out. This needs to be fixed.

I'm glad you found a plot though.