No love for Vengeance + Bloodbath in large pulls?



No love for Vengeance + Bloodbath in large pulls?

Dark Arts/Dark Dance + Blood Price isn't as tragic as people make it out to be.
The only place Dark Arts/Dark Dance really shines is in Dungeon runs on trash packs and I hit Blood Price with it all the time. Dark Dance is going to last pretty much until the pack is dead and hitting Blood Price is still going to get you some mp and it will come off cooldown for the next pack when you hit it right away. So if you didn't use it just because you had dark dance up, you basically wasted some free mp in my opinion. As godly as Dark Arts/Dark dance is on trash packs, it's still not 100% dodge. MP regain will happen.



I tend to combine Foresight with moves like DD, RI, and Bul for a little bit of extra mitigation. Foresight very much is one of those skills that you want to use in conjunction to build up.




Awarness + Dark Dance, because you can't parry critical hits.


I use this all the time. The synergy between them is fantastic, and dropping a few Overpowers on 10+ mobs with Maim up alongside it basically makes you invincible. I use this for pulls that will really hurt.
Foresight + Convalescence is my "this won't hurt as much" cooldown. And then obviously Raw Intuition + Awareness, but that's situational - more often than not I just use Raw Intuition to extend the stack timer.
It depends on how much mitigation you need too, and whether you need/want to use tank stance or not. For most dungeon pulls rotating vengeance/berserk/bloodbath and thrill/foresight/awareness/raw intuition should be plenty.
For savage raid tank busters, I'd suggest at least two cds without defiance. Thrill and vengeance for example, and plan your holmgang timings to get the most out of it. If the tank buster is physical you can also use foresight and raw intuition.


Conva and ToB? How about foresight, that has to be paired to make that dinky little thing count for something. Stacking BB, vengeance, and berserk makes for AWESOME self healing and deeps when you're downing a large pull in dungeons, and that's not even counting the inevitable decimate and overpower spam. Cooldowns can be paired just fine to get a good amount of synergy, especially on WAR. "not often advised"? get out of here!
Off the top of my head:
- Fight or Flight + Bloodbath
- Berserk + Bloodbath
- Vengeance + Bloodbath
- Thrill of Battle + Convalescence (especially when dropping Defiance)
- Raw Intuition + Awareness
- Dark Dance + Foresight/Awareness
- Bulwark + Foresight/Awareness
- Foresight + Convalescence/Awareness
Does anyone know how much reduction forsight gives at i260?
I think it reached 10% a few patches ago. It might be at 20% at some point during Stormblood.
The best cooldown pairings? The ones that go with your healers' cooldowns! (Virus OP xD)
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