Cleric stance on sastasha for Ast

[xabyssopelagicx]

First post for me here I'm not level 60 on either healer yet and I don't consider myself an expert. I have a friend who just started and it was his first time going through it. After casting protect I swapped to cleric stance which stopped my heals and killed the tank which I regret. The tank told me that I shouldn't be DPSing anyways and said his main was healer. I pray he's not a scholar but I can't possibly see his side of the story on that one. In a level 16 dungeon with two level 55 people and a new drk level 32. He's pulling two sets of trash mobs and I had no issue healing him through it but he was constantly losing aggro on a class with aoe enmity and consistently whined about protect and how it was needed. I really just couldn't see his point so I just stayed with cleric stance so I didn't have to wait 30 seconds without heals again for useless unnecessary mitigation. How can anyone justify standing around casting cure ever 15-20 seconds on any class.

[Hirmu]

I've been leveling AST as my last healer job to 60 so been to Sastasha recently a bit more than I'd like Personally I have only cleric stance there as cross-class and just skip protect entirely. The healing requirement is already very low and I don't think protect makes much of a difference. I've had quite a few runs where I've healed mostly between pulls and maybe tossed one benefic during the pull here and there. There's no excuse for idling as healer for long periods of time so yes, you should be doing dps and the tank was just plain wrong. Healer dps is so high that it almost rivals that of the dps classes if you're geared well and it's sometimes even better. I'd also say that there's very little to gain in the early dungeons from pulling more than one group of mobs as nobody has a decent AoE damage anyway and taking one group at a time gives the healer more freedom to push dps as most of the time you can skip healing entirely.

[VanilleFang]

Protect is useless in the early parts of the game. Stick with Cleric Stance.

[FoxyAreku]

Protect is useless in the early parts of the game. Stick with Cleric Stance.

Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.

[Rivxkobe]

Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.

Incorrect.

I posted earlier about this.

CS increases the damage your spells do by, at least, 5. At most it doubles the damage of your spells. Again this is in Sastasha.

Protect on the other hand has no discernable effect on the damage you recieve. Even as a tank. So it is, in essence, useless. Its not even worth the swap.

[Urthdigger]

Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.

This is only true IF you are wearing low level gear, as that is general DoM gear that has both int and mnd. If you're a high level player synced down however, you likely get NO int on your gear whatsoever.

[VanilleFang]

Technically, both of them are useless at that low level. You won't notice much a DPS difference for not using cleric at level 15 and at least your team won't yell at you.

RivxKobe already pointed you to their previous post but I'm going to include one little tidbit.

If you increase your dps by even 1 with CS then you are getting more use out of it than you would Protect. And a 1 point increase to dps isn't entirely useless so I would have to disagree with you completely.

[Cynfael]

RivxKobe already pointed you to their previous post but I'm going to include one little tidbit.

If you increase your dps by even 1 with CS then you are getting more use out of it than you would Protect. And a 1 point increase to dps isn't entirely useless so I would have to disagree with you completely.

What I read from Foxy's comment was that getting through the duty is such a non-issue that the choice of Cross-Class slot isn't very important no matter how you spin it.

Personally I go for CS because a 10% damage boost is better than nothing even if we're talking about lowbies with comparable base INT and MND. If the party wants to bitch, they can have at it. Most players by now seem to recognize that Protect in low-level content is basically irrelevant.

[VanilleFang]

snipperoo.

True enough. Clearing the duty is braindead af, but it's rather ignorant to claim CS and Protect are on the same level at lv. 15. Protect is literally useless. There is no change to the damage you received when you apply it. CS at least does something.

[Rivxkobe]

What I read from Foxy's comment was that getting through the duty is such a non-issue that the choice of Cross-Class slot isn't very important no matter how you spin it.

Maybe.

But CS isn't "useless", as he claimed. While it isn't important, placing Protect as your first CC has no real merit or practical use.

This is only true IF you are wearing low level gear, as that is general DoM gear that has both int and mnd. If you're a high level player synced down however, you likely get NO int on your gear whatsoever.

Not even then is it true.

You would still gain the slight bonus from naturally higher mind and the 10% increase. It, in no way, never doesn't increase the damage you do. Meaning it is not useless as he so claimed. Important? Not really. But there is literally no reason to take protect over CS.