So -- no one truly multi-classes, right?

[Hexprone]

I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class (I just played for the free month last year and then quit, so I only have a month of play under my belt despite having a join date of a year ago). I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.

I understand that change will require paying to swap out all the permanent stat points I've been allocating level by level from INT to MND. That's fine, but it makes me think that the game's ability to level every class on a single character is really sort of pointless.

Sure, you want to level the classes for your cross-class skills, and you could have a character who was level 60 in WHM, BLM, PLD and BRD -- but that character would be a hopeless gimp, because he could only have the right base stats for one of those classes.

You can feasibly level all the jobs that have the same core stat -- BLM and SUM for example, or WHM and SCH -- but does anyone at max level actually play more than one role on the same character? Is that a pipe dream?

Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?

[Moomba33]

Bonus stats are separate for each class.
Sch/Smn are the only jobs that have to reset stats because they both come from the Arcanist class.
(Personally I just split the stat points between Int and Mind. I don't play sch/smn in content difficult enough to care about optimizing).

[Hexprone]

Thanks to everyone for pointing out my mistake -- I've only played this class, so I didn't understand the others are different.

(Personally I just split the stat points between Int and Mind. I don't play sch/smn in content difficult enough to care about optimizing).

Huh. I would love to do that but I would be scared of getting yelled at in the Duty Finder. I'm never planning to run in very hardcore company -- but even in casual contexts you tend to run into folks who get mad that you're undergeared or whatever. You don't encounter that yourself?

If I thought I could just switch freely between SUM and SCH at will, Arcanist really would be the perfect class for me.

[Moomba33]

Thanks to everyone for pointing out my mistake -- I've only played this class, so I didn't understand the others are different.

Huh. I would love to do that but I would be scared of getting yelled at in the Duty Finder. I'm never planning to run in very hardcore company -- but even in casual contexts you tend to run into folks who get mad that you're undergeared or whatever. You don't encounter that yourself?

If I thought I could just switch freely between SUM and SCH at will, Arcanist really would be the perfect class for me.

No ones ever said anything to me. We're at the point now where main stats are hitting 1500 points and up and I'm 16/17 points short depending on the stat (you have 35 bonus stat points at 60). I don't think anyone but a serious min maxer could tell the difference just by looking.

[Hexprone]

No ones ever said anything to me. We're at the point now where main stats are hitting 1500 points and up and I'm 16/17 points short depending on the stat (you have 35 bonus stat points at 60). I don't think anyone but a serious min maxer could tell the difference just by looking.

That's really nice to hear -- and from what I understand, a skilled SCH will spend a fair amount of time on DPS anyway, so the INT isn't truly wasted.

I may end up just becoming a SCH/SUM switch hitter rather than taking the time to level another whole class.

[Moomba33]

That's really nice to hear -- and from what I understand, a skilled SCH will spend a fair amount of time on DPS anyway, so the INT isn't truly wasted.

I may end up just becoming a SCH/SUM switch hitter rather than taking the time to level another whole class.

Healers do DPS using Cleric Stance which swaps their MND and INT. DPSing without Cleric isn't worth much later since the healer and caster gear separates and the healer stuff won't have any INT. So the few extra INT points won't help your SCH.

It's up to you whether or not it's worth swapping (as others have said, the item is cheap). From my perspective the difference is too small to worry about, but for others it may be more like "the cost is so small, why not be the best you can be?".
Don't worry about it much either way. Whatever you decide should be based on what's important to you as others are unlikely to notice.

[FoxyAreku]

Thanks to everyone for pointing out my mistake -- I've only played this class, so I didn't understand the others are different.



Huh. I would love to do that but I would be scared of getting yelled at in the Duty Finder. I'm never planning to run in very hardcore company -- but even in casual contexts you tend to run into folks who get mad that you're undergeared or whatever. You don't encounter that yourself?

If I thought I could just switch freely between SUM and SCH at will, Arcanist really would be the perfect class for me.

No one can see your stat points except yourself.

I don't condone splitting them though, as it takes 5 seconds to just switch them to something else with "The Keeper's Hymn", purchaseable at your grand company for very cheap.

[TiaHariberux3]

I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class. I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.



Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?

Only SMN/SCH share their base stat. Every other class has seperate base stat from each other when u put all points into vit on a tank class you wont have to change it when u play dps.

[Ilan]

I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class. I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.

I understand that change will require paying to swap out all the permanent stat points I've been allocating level by level from INT to MND. That's fine, but it makes me think that the game's ability to level every class on a single character is really sort of pointless.

Sure, you want to level the classes for your cross-class skills, and you could have a character who was level 60 in WHM, BLM, PLD and BRD -- but that character would be a hopeless gimp, because he could only have the right base stats for one of those classes.

You can feasibly level all the jobs that have the same core stat -- BLM and SUM for example, or WHM and SCH -- but does anyone at max level actually play more than one role on the same character? Is that a pipe dream?

Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?

You get points for every job and it switches as soon as you switch your job, besides SMN and SCH.

[Vaer]

All classes/jobs have their own stat point pools. ACN/SMN/SCH is the exception and the only class/jobs that share the same stat pool because they share the same base class.

You can multi-class to a point, but each character only has 1 set of tomes to buy tome gear with and one set of weekly lockouts at max level which really limits the amount of jobs you can play at a high level. Some players get around this by leveling another character.

If it's just max level normal content where stats don't matter that much you can play as many roles as you want, they just won't be equally geared.

Also, the stat reset goes as low as a measly 250 seals so you can just carry a bunch of them on you if you want to swap between SCH and SMN stat allocations.