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    Hexprone's Avatar
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    Dybryd Demiel
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60

    So -- no one truly multi-classes, right?

    I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class (I just played for the free month last year and then quit, so I only have a month of play under my belt despite having a join date of a year ago). I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.

    I understand that change will require paying to swap out all the permanent stat points I've been allocating level by level from INT to MND. That's fine, but it makes me think that the game's ability to level every class on a single character is really sort of pointless.

    Sure, you want to level the classes for your cross-class skills, and you could have a character who was level 60 in WHM, BLM, PLD and BRD -- but that character would be a hopeless gimp, because he could only have the right base stats for one of those classes.

    You can feasibly level all the jobs that have the same core stat -- BLM and SUM for example, or WHM and SCH -- but does anyone at max level actually play more than one role on the same character? Is that a pipe dream?

    Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?
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    Last edited by Hexprone; 01-12-2017 at 02:56 AM.

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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Eva Gamirdren
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    Bonus stats are separate for each class.
    Sch/Smn are the only jobs that have to reset stats because they both come from the Arcanist class.
    (Personally I just split the stat points between Int and Mind. I don't play sch/smn in content difficult enough to care about optimizing).
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexprone View Post
    I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class. I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.



    Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?
    Only SMN/SCH share their base stat. Every other class has seperate base stat from each other when u put all points into vit on a tank class you wont have to change it when u play dps.
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexprone View Post
    I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class. I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.

    I understand that change will require paying to swap out all the permanent stat points I've been allocating level by level from INT to MND. That's fine, but it makes me think that the game's ability to level every class on a single character is really sort of pointless.

    Sure, you want to level the classes for your cross-class skills, and you could have a character who was level 60 in WHM, BLM, PLD and BRD -- but that character would be a hopeless gimp, because he could only have the right base stats for one of those classes.

    You can feasibly level all the jobs that have the same core stat -- BLM and SUM for example, or WHM and SCH -- but does anyone at max level actually play more than one role on the same character? Is that a pipe dream?

    Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?
    You get points for every job and it switches as soon as you switch your job, besides SMN and SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Character
    Ein Vaer
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    All classes/jobs have their own stat point pools. ACN/SMN/SCH is the exception and the only class/jobs that share the same stat pool because they share the same base class.

    You can multi-class to a point, but each character only has 1 set of tomes to buy tome gear with and one set of weekly lockouts at max level which really limits the amount of jobs you can play at a high level. Some players get around this by leveling another character.

    If it's just max level normal content where stats don't matter that much you can play as many roles as you want, they just won't be equally geared.

    Also, the stat reset goes as low as a measly 250 seals so you can just carry a bunch of them on you if you want to swap between SCH and SMN stat allocations.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-12-2017 at 03:05 AM.

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    MaloraYuki's Avatar
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    Character
    Malora Lyra
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I main both brd and astro. I plan on adding pld to the mix. They don't use the same stats or anything like that and one obviously gets geared before the others. However I don't find it that hard to play more than one class on my main character if that's what you are getting at?
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    Atlas-04's Avatar
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    Character
    Atlyss Sol
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Gearing up a second or third class can take awhile. You only have so many tomes and gear drops per week from end game content. I have several classes at 60 to use a variety in roulette but only working on Monk in terms of getting the best gear.
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Character
    Dynamo Malevolti
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    That is only for SMN/SCH.

    since they share the same class, they also share the permanent bonus attribute stats as well. It was a mistake that the developer even pointed out.

    But that isn't the case for the other classes. They each get their own permanent bonus stats.
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Character
    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    And i have been gearing up a dragoon (main), paladin, and an astro. I mainly do this for my FC, just to make sure we have all the roles covered if needed, and also to shorten queue times.

    I mainly play as a dragoon, but i'll queue as a tank if i don't feel like waiting for a queue.
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexprone View Post
    I'm a newish player just past 50 in my first class (I just played for the free month last year and then quit, so I only have a month of play under my belt despite having a join date of a year ago). I'm a Summoner, and plan to swap to Scholar once I max out and get to know the game well enough to trust myself to do more than DPS.

    I understand that change will require paying to swap out all the permanent stat points I've been allocating level by level from INT to MND. That's fine, but it makes me think that the game's ability to level every class on a single character is really sort of pointless.

    Sure, you want to level the classes for your cross-class skills, and you could have a character who was level 60 in WHM, BLM, PLD and BRD -- but that character would be a hopeless gimp, because he could only have the right base stats for one of those classes.

    You can feasibly level all the jobs that have the same core stat -- BLM and SUM for example, or WHM and SCH -- but does anyone at max level actually play more than one role on the same character? Is that a pipe dream?

    Or, does 100,000 GC seals become a trivial price to pay once you're maxed out and running high-level dungeons all the time, so paying to swap your stats for different roles every time you switch from one job to another is not a big deal?
    I have everything at cap and will maintain that through whatever expansions we get, personally. I main PLD and run BRD as my secondary. While I don't necessarily 'play' all of the jobs (mostly because gearing that many jobs to current content is almost impossible), I do find it nice that if I'm in a group that needs something specific and can't find something to cover that role but can find other roles, I can always say 'Well I can switch to that role if need-be.' It's more of a flexibly option for me that allows me to get into content runs I might not be able to get into with my main two, but I'd say it's hardly something for everyone.
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    Last edited by Malzian; 01-12-2017 at 03:17 AM.
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