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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    I used Holy Spam as an example of healer dps because you said you play White Mage. Healer DPS is the whole idea behind the thread so I don't know why you're making it sound so abstract that I mentioned it.

    The post I also quoted with the -Sweet Smile- you mentioned that maybe healers could DPS more if DPS stopped taking unnecessary damage (Which you just reaffirmed in the post above), but my entire reply was dedicated to telling you that you're barking up the wrong tree because nobody I've read yet in the 80+ pages of Healer DPS threads has remotely stated that there's expectations for you to maintain Holy Spam (Read as Healer DPS) if your team is unable to avoid unnecessary damage.

    Nobody expects a healer to DPS if healing needs to be done.
    Again, I didn't talk at all about Holy Spam. Stone 3 is quite nice for doing some decent damage, Holy Spam is nice in an AoE situation, but hardly the primary DPS tool for a WHM. You're completely re framing the discussion in order to try to invalidate what has been said. If anyone is barking up the wrong tree, it would be you my friend. Your final statement again stresses Holy Spam, which I haven't talked about, you may see that as the only thing a WHM can do beyond healing, but fortunately most WHM do not.

    And again I will say it;

    I talked about DDs not standing in stupid since a lot of healer time can be consumed by healing avoidable damage. If players would actually avoid such damage, healers would have more time to use their attacks.
    The healer's role is to heal, and that any DPS they can contribute is a bonus, but it's not mandatory and people should stop making that demand of healers. What is there in that statement to argue with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Again, I didn't talk at all about Holy Spam. Stone 3 is quite nice for doing some decent damage, Holy Spam is nice in an AoE situation, but hardly the primary DPS tool for a WHM. You're completely re framing the discussion in order to try to invalidate what has been said. If anyone is barking up the wrong tree, it would be you my friend. Your final statement again stresses Holy Spam, which I haven't talked about, you may see that as the only thing a WHM can do beyond healing, but fortunately most WHM do not.

    And again I will say it;
    You're really difficult to argue with because you're avoiding the entire point. I said Holy Spam simply as reference to you saying you played WHM. It's not like I'm pretending Stone 3, SCH or AST don't exist. It was just an example (Plus Holy can easily be most of a Healers DPS in a dungeon so saying it isn't primary is kinda silly). As for your reframing comment, let me put it into perspective before you say "I didn't say nothin' about holy spam". I'm saying ALL healers have the tools to DPS and Heal in dungeons, but Nobody expects a healer to DPS if healing needs to be done.

    I was replying to a singular post of yours in the first place and my issue with THAT post in which you spoke about Healers maybe actually having a chance to DPS if DPS didn't take damage. That's my issue, not your other posts your acting like I have issue with.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 01-14-2017 at 05:39 AM.