Stupid reason to report someone

[Train88]

It's not even about the DPS. There's 2 kind of people giving advice.
-The person who really wants to help a human player by making it's life easier.
-The bossy elitist who tells others he knows how to play better than them.

He was rued, I was rude, everyone was rude. Ban everyone.

[MicahZerrshia]

-The bossy elitist who tells others he knows how to play better than them.

I love the "I play how I want" type of argument when they call the other player a bossy elitest.

It normally comes down to efficiency and when you are taking a break, not doing anything and getting carried, even in something as minor as a guildhest, then you get nasty at that person who asks you to do something.

I think you are calling the wrong person an elitest there.

[Maddonious]

He cant technically report you for not dpsing as a healer just because you weren't dpsing. However he pry can report you based on how abrasive you became in your convo. If just really passive aggressive then no harm to you.

This doesn't gloss over the fact that you were so lazy as a healer in a guildhest that was so easy to beat that you felt you shouldn't dps for what reason? To keep the tank alive from high damage attacks? Yeah, no. Not in that instance you arn't pulling that excuse. The bottom line is you were afking in the guildhest and wanted a free ride and when someone called you out for it you got offended cause he gave you a reality check. You could have shaved off a min if you helped but decided to extend the instance taking that extra min away from the other 3 players.

I've seen many healers like you. The ones who only use a cure 2 every 20s and stand around afk the rest of the time. It sickens me that they think they have to do less work then the tank and dps have to put in because of heals alone.

How do you get through solo content with that mentality? Do you let your chocobo kill everything while you keep it alive the whole time? Do you always have to party up with other players like this is some kind of old school MMO where healers literally couldn't dps?

If you wanna (or others) wanna say healers don't have to dps and "Its fine if they only heal" I say that is a lie and it affects other players times. "Oh im still doing my job if I dont dps".......does the tank stop attacking when he has enough aggro to hold the mob and just sit there? I mean he is technically doing his tank job by holding adds but nothing ever said he was required to continue to dps once his minimum job requirement was fulfilled.
What about the dps who only does the worst possible rotation or spams one attack? I mean he is still technically dpsing so he is doing his job so you cant yell at him to dps more so you can pick up the pace of the dungeon. If the dungeon takes 1 hour do to complete due to the tank and dps meeting the minimum requirements you have no right to say otherwise as they were all doing their "job" to some degree.

Bottom line is healers are ment to dps when not in very dangerous situations. Any excuse you make up will be tossed aside by better players with arguments like mine about the tank/dps still "technically" doing their job.

[ckc22]

Stealth lazy healer thread for the billionth time.

Doing dps in downtime is part of the design. Get into it, get over it, or get out.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Stealth lazy healer thread for the billionth time.

Doing dps in downtime is part of the design. Get into it, get over it, or get out.

Actually healer dps was never taken into consideration in the designs and tuning for the majority of instances.

[CGMidlander]

Actually healer dps was never taken into consideration in the designs and tuning for the majority of instances.

Said content can be done with both DPS afk as well, what with the lack of enrage timers. But, most people wouldn't like that, would they?

If you are present, you should do what you can to contribute to killing stuff faster. Casting a heal every 7 GCDs and doing nothing in between is pure laziness.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Said content can be done with both DPS afk as well, what with the lack of enrage timers. But, most people wouldn't like that, would they?

If you are present, you should do what you can to contribute to killing stuff faster. Casting a heal every 7 GCDs and doing nothing in between is pure laziness.

Damage dealers dps isn't what's being discussed here though. It's healer dps. Related topics? Perhaps. But not the one we are currently on. And yours is a flawed comparison anyway. Damage dealers are supposed to do damage period. Healers are healers first and damage dealers second. This means as long as they heal everyone they are doing their job. Certainly not to your standards, but to the average standards of the entire community they are doing fine.

[CGMidlander]

This means as long as they heal everyone they are doing their job. Certainly not to your standards, but to the average standards of the entire community they are doing fine.

Again, that's only a technicality. People of that description are still lazy.

A healer doesn't have to do massive DPS to help. Even a modest amount is better than nothing. (Which, is what you're trying to defend here.)

[VanilleFang]

Actually healer dps was never taken into consideration in the designs and tuning for the majority of instances.

They didn't say it was the intended design for instances. Their post more says "design of the role", at least to me anyway. If it wasn't an intended design than why is healing so light, and healers are given spells like Holy/Gravity?

[Kosmos992k]

They didn't say it was the intended design for instances. Their post more says "design of the role", at least to me anyway. If it wasn't an intended design than why is healing so light, and healers are given spells like Holy/Gravity?

Healing is not light in the content as designed. But the content was not designed to be overgeared the way it is. The item level and level sync are completely insufficient to the task. All the comments from people in this topic about not needing heals in dungeons are based on dungeons where you are completely overgeared, sync'd or not. The original intent of level sync was to maintain not just the challenge but the three roles of the trinity in older content. As we can all see from running older content that is not what happens.

I'm also a bit ticked off at the usual MOAR DPS crowd and their dismissive view of healers. Next time you need a heal and I'm your white mage, perhaps I should pause and ask if you need my healing arts now?