Stupid reason to report someone

[Cynfael]

I would say its only fair to expect healers to DPS, if and when they can see the numbers the DPS are actually pulling and call them out without getting banned.

Don't need to parse to get a good idea of when a DPS is outright slacking. It's not usually as obvious as a dancing, jumping, or mid-pull chest-looting healer, but it's not as if the rest of the party can't notice the BLM barely using Enochian, the DRG without BotD, the mobs taking forever to die....

I'm not about getting people banned for being bad, but I certainly don't want to encourage them being willfully lazy.

[Amirya]

So if anyone could explain to me why they choose not to heal without claiming to feel "insecure" in content they've run a dozens of times (...and 60 levels of learning in their pocket... I mean... havent you learned anything while leveling up?) or roleplay (which should never be a reason not to play to the best of your abilities in matched content) I'd be grateful...

Because everyone loses their shit when a blm or smn spams physick. :P

Just teasing!

Healers who choose to not dps, I've seen, come in a few flavors.

Obtuse about it.
New to duty and wants a feel for it first.
In a full party and the other healer is useless.
Super squishy tank.
Performance anxiety.
Doesn't think they're bad, cause no one died.
Distracted by: TV, movie, significant other, dinner, pets, etc.
Have no desire to improve (these are the ones who are in full Shire gear and can only manage 600 spa. On aoe trash.)

[FeliAiko]

Even the healer NPCs in this game, when there is no major healing required, resort to doing DPS. A big example is Frey from the DRK quests. Yes, a healer's primary role is to heal, but that doesn't mean if no healing's required you just stand around doing nothing of note. That's just being intentionally lazy, no matter how you try to excuse it.

[Rivxkobe]

Not a stupid reason.

Sounds like it was about more than you not dpsing. But seriously, I 100% doubt its the other healer DPSing that is causing you to wipe. It sounds more like a lack of a lot of things, especially you being unable to handle solo healing even though you state you do the runs regularly and it sounds like you get left to solo healing a lot. Making a choice not to DPS as a healer is a selfish one. You really shouldn't be surprised when other players get upset with you. You are not playing the role as it is intended to be played. Your title is "healer" but your role is not just to heal, it is to support your team.

If the team feels you aren't pulling your own weight they can report you. It has been stated in the past and the GMs have said it is reportable.

[Myrhn]

I think everyone forget the main reason healer have damage abilities, that is to do the MSQ and quest in general.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I think everyone forget the main reason healer have damage abilities, that is to do the MSQ and quest in general.

If that were the case, they would only have Stone I-II-III and their equivalent. Nothing in the MSQ requires as potent a spell as Holy, Aero III, Gravity or Bane. In fact, DoTs will rarely see a full tick on any MSQ battle because Stone will kill it faster. Furthermore, if you do Hall of the Novice, you're expressly told to DPS if it's safe.

Someone on the healer forums posted a video where they only healed throughout a Xelphatol run with friends. She literally did nothing for nearly 85% of the run-- even purposely spamming emotes and jumping around to illustrate how useless she was save for very brief instances. I sincerely doubt the developers meant for healers to be doing that. If they did, it's terrible game design. Either make the content hit hard enough healers need to actual heal or keep the current DPSing meta.

[Dreggit]

I think everyone forget the main reason healer have damage abilities, that is to do the MSQ and quest in general.

Having played WHM for awhile now. (L59 and still have no left Ish gard yet) I'm getting bored of the lack of dps options. I'd like something more than just stone and aero :U (if there's more in 50+job quests I've not gotten to them yet. Want to complete all the Ex Primals synched)

Don't get me wrong. I love the support role of healing but at times I feel it's kind of middle of the road with healing and dps. Although stance swapping is a lot of fun

[Accelerating]

I think it's pretty unfair to expect DPS from a healer. Constantly toggling Cleric Stance and casting offensive spells does require more than 10 apm, and let's be real here: That Anime on my second monitor ain't gonna watch itself.

[Squigley]

Yaaaaaay! This discussion again

The way I see this thing is that first you learn your role (tank, heal, dps) and then you learn your job. Knowing your role is a part of knowing your job, that's why role comes first. Job duties can often overlap with other roles. This isn't my original idea, I think I bumped into this on these forums. Some simplified examples:

A good tank establishes and holds aggro on the monsters so that the rest of the party can do their own things.
A good paladin tanks well and uses his entire toolkit so that he/she and the entire party takes less damage, thus letting the healers use their mp for damage instead of healing. Good aggro control also lets the pld use more damage rotations.

A good damage dealer knows the rotation and does positionals for good dps so that dps checks are met and the healers/tanks resources don't run dry because fights take too long.
A good ninja handles the dps duties and helps the tank with the aggro so that the tank can put out more dps. The nin also keeps an eye on the rest of the party and buffs them by providing additional TP or by lowering another party members aggro generation etc

A good healer makes sure no party members HP reaches zero because of unavoidable damage.
A good scholar performs the healer role and contributes to the party dps in a fairly noticeable way by using the damage spells when immediate healing isn't required.

I think that the vast majority of the game content can be done just by each player doing their roles. But for the more difficult stuff I'd prefer people who know their jobs. Things go much faster and smoother then.

[Canadane]

I do not dps as a healer.

i'm really bored with this game

These are probably related.