Is progressive content or the community to blame for player skill gap?

[bswpayton]

/highfive It's so hard to get anyone to run synced content. I couldn't get anyone in my old FC to run GARUDA NORMAL with me for MSQ, for goodness sake!

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Well with cross server party finder up maybe a thread can be set up or something for any new players that want to run these old primals, and honestly even the hw ones because, I still could see a que for Ravana being pretty long depending on what server your on. Im actually going to do that and I hope to get feedback , when I do its been on my mind for a while Id just love to get new players together that want to run content, but may just really need to learn it. Id hoping the cross server party finder will solve alot of how the progression in this game works, gettin like minded people together to do content they want to not do unsync.

[Dreggit]

I finally beat Ramah Ex synched. Such a great feeling. The problem I have had with this fight is that individuals who play key roles in it such as a tank, either not having key skills (like provoke) or the unwillingness to listen to a plan and doing whatever they feel like doing. And that's not inclusive to just tanks it's everyone really...

But maaaaaan. The feeling of finishing the fight with a great team ♡ so good. Now only Ifrit, Shiva and Laviathen to go amd if what I'm told is accurate they are much more forgiving than Titan and Ramah

[bswpayton]

I finally beat Ramah Ex synched. Such a great feeling. The problem I have had with this fight is that individuals who play key roles in it such as a tank, either not having key skills (like provoke) or the unwillingness to listen to a plan and doing whatever they feel like doing. And that's not inclusive to just tanks it's everyone really...

But maaaaaan. The feeling of finishing the fight with a great team ♡ so good. Now only Ifrit, Shiva and Laviathen to go amd if what I'm told is accurate they are much more forgiving than Titan and Ramah

Shiva is harder than ifrit in my opinion only because of the falling ice , that can get annoying but she is still easier than the others mention and ifrit is only an issue for healers cause they have a stupid debuff so u should be fine

[Rinari]

not having key skills (like provoke)

Cross-class skills will be removed in a future patch and replaced with selectable role skills as I understand it. That should fix the design flaw of having required cross-class skills. Fortunately for me, I was leveling Paladin alongside my Warrior main just so I can experience the different tank roles before settling. I'll do Dark Knight as well eventually. Now I have provoke ready for when I need it!

[Judge_Xero]

As I gave an example on the whm I had in aurum vale I think some people tend to get a lil confused, and just the comprehension isnt always gona click like it does for some. For instance that whm probably thought well the tool tips say that cure two heals for more than cure 1 so I'm going to use that one instead, its just like a driving test just because you read what the manual says doesnt mean that you are now officially an expert driver or that your going to past the test. The fact that people think tool tips is the number one answer alone just doesnt make sense to me, its helpful but it doesnt take someone from a 2 week skill level to all of a sudden they are a master of the job.

Haha well it should be the time you hit 50 and then 60. Also there's nothing wrong with using Cure 2, but since all the spells use MP it should be obvious that Cure 2 uses more than Cure. I'd hope all spell casters are able to learn after a couple levels that their spells use MP. No the tooltips alone don't make you a Master of the Job. But just like after reading your drivers manual and then practicing driving through 50-60 levels, I'd hope people learn that their car runs of gas and it doesn't just magically fill itself in the driveway.

I remember when I first started blm I made my own mistake, with astral fire , I thought sense it dealt more damage that I was suppose to trade it out for fire 1. It wasnt until someone explained to me that it was better to have it up and then go back to using your basic fire 1 that I fixed my mistake.

I've never tried just casting Astral Fire. Will have to give that a try.

And also learning an ability and working with mechanics are two totally separate things, the reason why dungeons are so much easier is because adds dont have mechanics. Its the mechanics from what I have seen that give people the most trouble and all hall of novice pretty much does is tell you how to avoid the big orange circle so I dont understand how something that is meant for a novice to do can be compared to the harder content. On Ifrit extreme does the hall of novice teach u how to dodge a mechanic that takes up the whole entire circle aside from two tiny little patches of space, or the same with titan his huge aoe that covers up the whole entire platform aside from 4 tiny little cut out plots of land. Are dealing with a charmed type of ability like in ramuh extreme the only way to learn this type of stuff is to actually doing it , and if people arent doing it then more than likely most people will never learn it. With how the game is set up and how content grows old so fast then for those whom want to do any challenge content , if they skipped over all things before it to play catch up then chances are they arent gona be very good at it, not everyone some people will be great but others wont.

I agree with you here 100%, that's why I didn't mention anything about playing your class in conjunction with performing mechanics (other than that most mechanics are showing up in Dungeons as well). Because at the very basic level where the divide between player gap is the majority of people have no idea to play their class to begin with and playing your class terribly while performing mechanics is still just terrible.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

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That would be awesome. I love running with newbies at this point, sometimes it's the only thing that makes an old dungeon interesting again LOL. Plus there's the fact that I myself haven't had the chance to clear many synced primals, (not a big fan of DF... had one too many rage-fests, so I've been avoiding it). I was actually debating on starting up an FC devoted to players who are interested in completing all the content, and helping our newbies learn it too, but I'm hoping with the cross server stuff it won't be necessary anymore.