Healing a11s advice?

[technole]

People can survive 2 vuln stacks if their HP is decent and with an Adlo, or sometimes with Fey Covenant. I only use Selene in Phase 1 until after Limit Cut-Numbers nowadays. I wouldn't advise it during progression because of silly mistakes that can happen. I just make fun of my DPS for making me drop cleric.

Lapis phase, you should have some Eos cooldowns back up for this. Fey Illumination is perfect here, then Succor/WD will help the other healer stretch their HoTs more so they too can DPS more in that phase. Remember it's not just Scholar damage you are after, it's helping combined healer DPS.

You can always prepare Eos Embrace spam for the healer photon or even have her solo heal you if somehow the other healer isn't alive to heal it.

[LadyKairi]

Thanks for the advice so far, but let me clarify some things.

In my team, we tend to have some oopsies and get hit by extra aoes, getting vuln stacks (at least lately). I am healing with an Astro main heals, and I feel like they have focused more on doing DPS, and I end up having to pick up their slack. My mp/aetherflow stacks suffer for it. I try to trust them, but the tanks end up dying because they ignore the healing (possibly thinking my fairy can do it?). It's extremely frustrating to me, because I feel like it has caused quite a few of our wipes. But, I healed with a healer sub lastnight who was really good, but things still went wrong.

Here's a little explaination of what I do during the fight (all of what I can remember off the top of my head):

As we are counting down to start an encounter, I usually try to get a a crit aldo on the MT so we can try to pump out more dps. Then when there's 3 seconds left on the count, I place my shadowflare, apply my dots and DPS. For the whole first phase I usually let the main healer practically solo heal (support from Eos) and help with first E.D.D. with dots, then I focus boss. I almost always get my succor up before whirlwinds, even if I think we may push past it (just in case), but there still are times where i space on the damage.

We don't push past Lapis, so I put up shields, SS the OT + Eye for an eye (because he takes it right where it spawns) and put up the defense/healing potency boost from Eos. Then, I leave it up to the main healer/Eos while the MCH and I focus a Lapis together. We are always able to get the lapis down before whirlwind and the last set of tethered orbs/lasers, so I succor and place sacred soil and start doing damage again.

We are then able to push past the first shield, so when OT gets targetted with photon, I place a shield on them. Since I always have Eos in the middle (slightly north to try and hit the MT), I focus on her to try and get a crit aldo and spread it + Eye on the dps for their photon then help with the second E.D.D. and put dots on boss. Then what my team has me do is I succor and don't move before healer photon. If the other healer gets targetted with it, I get them up with a single lustrate and succor (main healer topping themselves and everyone else off), and continue with doing damage/managing Eos.

In the last phase, it seems we have the most trouble. I always make sure to succor before the first two optical sights. I usually swift cast a succor before double whirlwind and just replace shields. We try to stack after the tank Laser X sword, and I put up shields for people. Then, right before photon-whirlwind-lasers, I try to set up crit aldo + eye on Eos, then spread it on everyone when we stack in mid. Sometimes RNGesus doesn't bless me with a crit, so I don't know if its even worth doing?

We Haven't dealt with the third E.D.D. much. How I handled it when we got the furthest (2.9%), I probably healed more than I should have. I tried helping with the healing, so my damage suffered (bad Kai!). The second shield, we had the tanks stand together, and then the rest of us stood in a spot where we weren't facing a pillar. Main heals used their bubble (I'm sorry I'm so bad with skill names), I spread crit aldo + eye on us and place sacred soild. We don't even get a bleed because of all the shields. Then I focused on damage again as well as the other healer. What wiped us was the last GA-100. We probably would have survived it, but it always ends up killing our remaining pillars.

I hope my explaining all that helps. I'm bad at the writing thing, as well as the whole "remembering skill names". Also, no my acc isn't maxed out yet. It probably would be had I not made myself proke trying to penta meld some things (among other things). But thanks to the sticker books, I can trade for some more materia (which I hope to do the next time I log in). I know for a week or two, my leader wanted us all to meld all of our accessories with +12 vit to see if it would help. I just haven't been able to replace them until recently.

I don't have any special macros for Eos either :x I've always done everything manually, I'm not sure if that's an issue.

[Judge_Xero]

It sounds like you do things very similar to my group.

Me on A11S - Old Video

For the DPS Photon getting a CRT Adlo is pretty overkill. You can have a DPS Mantra and your OT use Convo, then spread the adlo off them.

Try to use Indom for the DPS Photon as well as for the Laser Whirlwinds to help your co-healer top everyone. Being able to time your precasted heals is very important too because there is not very much time between Photons and Whirlwinds and Double Whirlwinds (and dodging lasers) so you need to use the time you have as best as you can.

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Tips
- Making sure your group has enough HP to handle getting stacks and not getting 1 shot by AOEs.
Mages/Healers 22k
Melee/BRD/MCH 24k (Ideally the BRD/MCH will have 28k lol -> More MDEF PLZ)
Tanks - not a big deal

- Getting that accuracy. If both healers are DPSing then both should be capped/as close to cap as possible. It is such a huge thing to have fight consistency and acc% is a large part of that. You will also find that you get a larger DPS increase on a healer than the % of accuracy you've gained.
(i.e. 70->90% accuracy would be larger than a 20% DPS gain simply because RNGesus will make sure all your strongest attacks are the ones that miss)

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Accuracy wise without repecing your Relic for Accuracy.

Remeld your Body - ACC5 X 2 and ACC4 X 3
Get a i250 Crafted Ring and Meld it with Accuracy - T5 + 4 T4 Accuracy. (can also use T3 acc for some melds if cost is an issue)

Those are two pieces you will keep even after A12S is cleared unless you get the Alex Body first drop.
It will also give you a ton of freedom on upgrading other pieces without a large loss in Accuracy.

Those two will give you 99 accuracy paired with Grilled Sweetfish (<-Cheap Food) will keep you comfortably capped for all the turns. (593 accuracy required for all of Creator Savage)

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Also, don't feel down on yourself. TBH a month in A11S isn't that long for most groups. It's also just one of those fights where there is a ton of burst healing and shielding required and if people have stacks they will drop like a rock with only the minimum amount of HP. (despite others thinking you can spread CRT Adlo, Sacred Soil and Virus every Whirlwind to save them)

[LadyKairi]

For the DPS Photon getting a CRT Adlo is pretty overkill. You can have a DPS Mantra and your OT use Convo, then spread the adlo off them.

Thanks For the advice! I guess I've tried doing the crit aldo since the floor is on fire. I've felt it gives the dps more time to do damage on E.D.D. Since my cohealer has focused more on doing damage, I've always felt it was needed, because people used to die a lot from not getting healed in time for whirlwind. Or they would survive whirlwind, but die because they were hitting the E.D.D./ moving for positionals. The crit aldo has cut the deaths there significantly. Although, with the healer sub we had lastnight didn't seem to need that help. So I guess it just depends on who I have healing with me.

[Judge_Xero]

Thanks For the advice! I guess I've tried doing the crit aldo since the floor is on fire. I've felt it gives the dps more time to do damage on E.D.D. Since my cohealer has focused more on doing damage, I've always felt it was needed, because people used to die a lot from not getting healed in time for whirlwind. Or they would survive whirlwind, but die because they were hitting the E.D.D./ moving for positionals. The crit aldo has cut the deaths there significantly. Although, with the healer sub we had lastnight didn't seem to need that help. So I guess it just depends on who I have healing with me.

You will definitely need to plan things out with your Astro. Having the SCH solo heal after Photon is not very efficient because they have pretty limited burst AOE healing (Emergency + Succor + Indom). Relying on an Adlo spam hoping for a crit because your AST doesn't want to precast a Helios is terrible and is time that you could be DPSing not to mention Adlo is very MP expensive.

I'm not really sure what order my AST does their heals, but I'm sure it's probably Aspected Helios precasted to go off as Photon Hits followed by a Helios. That combined with your Indom and maybe Sacred Soil (depending on how many stacks your group has accumulated) should be plenty to keep everyone healthy. If your Adlo typically falls off before Whirlwind then you can also Succor after Photon goes off for that extra bit of redundancy.

[Sylvain]

It sounds like you do things very similar to my group.

Me on A11S - Old Video

Gj on the kill, but when I see that I wonder if SE designes the fight for 2 or 1 healer? You effectively DPSed for 95% of the duration of the encounter. With the future release of the Redmage, assuming he could bring some healing utility, will it make group bring 1 heal 1 rdmg instead of 2heals? I mean.... if the second healer is useful once every 40sec for 1 aoe heal...

[technole]

If you are getting to the last phase GA-100 after the shield you are making the soft enrage. So if there were no deaths, then it's mostly DPS optimization at this point. Like literally after that final whirlwind, people should be getting damage potions out for their DoTs, swiftcast your shadowflare. Plan on who on the DPS is going to hit LB. Do whatever it takes to push. The OT shouldn't even bother running away with the GA if its that close, they should go-ham as most won't ever survive it because of the tower damage remaining.

Of course the fight gets easier once the raid has access to those gobdip 270 weapon upgrades, since the margins for error become significantly less. So it's worth throwing everything including the kitchen sink at clearing.

I wouldn't worry about trying to bait out a Crit Adlo for any of the spreads, the shield is there to cover that GCD so they don't have to stop doing damage. Then immediately Indom once they fall to 1. The AST should be timing their Helios at that moment too and that should top them off for the whirlwind. Sometimes I throw down the Soil too depending on stacks.

ACC is the most importance for any savage healer, and missing things like Energy Drain is the worst. Like any 270 right sides should absolutely be ACC V or VIT V (if capped by other means, like if you have anima ACC to cap can just use VIT melds). Left side mostly if not-all ACC V. So it'll come down to a pentameld right side to cap along with food. Ideally for SCH the best one to use is the crafted choker because it's the best stat weight trade-off, but many use the ring.

[LadyKairi]

BTW: The GA-100 in the last phase can be bypassed (just for the case towers are missíng). The target has to jump down at the right moment and it will deal no damage

Is it just that one GA that it works for? Or does it work for the one before that too? My group has been trying to do that, but I don't think it's getting timed right because it ended up targeting our MCH last second and slaughtering us xD Then again, it seems the boss has some beef with our MCH

In all seriousness, my group isn't gathering tonight to try and relieve some stress, but I've changed out some melds. I'm redoing the melds on my chest too. So far I'm at 530 acc (without food), and I'm working at getting IV's to try and finish pentameld oh my gosh my headpiece and put some on my chest.

[LadyKairi]

and finish pentameld oh my gosh my headpiece and put some on my chest.

Ugh, autocorrect on iPhone sucks. I meant "and finish pentamelding my headpiece"

*facepalm*

[Judge_Xero]

Gj on the kill, but when I see that I wonder if SE designes the fight for 2 or 1 healer? You effectively DPSed for 95% of the duration of the encounter. With the future release of the Redmage, assuming he could bring some healing utility, will it make group bring 1 heal 1 rdmg instead of 2heals? I mean.... if the second healer is useful once every 40sec for 1 aoe heal...

I'm not sure what you mean. My Fairy was healing 100% of that fight. My group runs 2 Healer, 5 DPS and 2 Tanks.

Not to de-rail OP's thread, but I hope that the next Raid Tier is a little harder. I can see that SE made this one fairly easy to allow people headroom to actually improve on their classes. (ample space for both healers to Clerics practice and extremely low tank damage to allow for Tank DPS stance practice)

Because of Healer Utility I'm sure there will always be a need for two healers in Raid. I also doubt that RDM will have any Healing White magic.

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@ Kairi Knight'

Really looking forward to find out when you get your clear. Also if you happen to keep Logs of your fights it does make it easier to analyze where any major issues are that are preventing a clear.