If we are going to have a jump potion can we put Stone Sky Sea on steroids?

[OranKells]

So I have mixed feelings about the Jump Potions. I don't want to rehash all of it but I am afraid of a large influx of poorly skilled players causing content to be dumbed down and lowering the bar for everyone.

However I ALREADY feel like there is a sizable chunk of poorly skilled players that do this.

So come Stormblood can we please PLEASE PLEASE have some method of filtering people out through skill and not simply item level.

Maybe some XI style Maat's Cap Fights?
SSS clearance grades?
Anything?!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Players already had low skill before the potions were invented. Content was already nerfed. Skip potions won't change that.

[NolLacnala]

Let's not fix what's already broken.

Regressive_left_Balmung_post.jpg

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Regressive_left_Balmung_post.jpg

Ok you had your fun being cute, now say what you really feel. With actual words.

[OranKells]

It's almost like that is the third line of my post.

Almost.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Then what makes you think people can get good regardless?

[ShinMetsu]

Then what makes you think people can get good regardless?

Why not just actually read his post?

So come Stormblood can we please PLEASE PLEASE have some method of filtering people out through skill and not simply item level.

Maybe some XI style Maat's Cap Fights?
SSS clearance grades?
Anything?!

Never said he expects ppl to get better than now

[OranKells]

Where did I say they would get good?

I said I want there to be a bar to pass.

Maybe a WoW proving grounds thing? Get silver or up to do Savage? Bronze to queue for Expert roulette?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Where did I say they would get good?

I said I want there to be a bar to pass.

Maybe a WoW proving grounds thing? Get silver or up to do Savage? Bronze to queue for Expert roulette?

You are neglecting the fact Square Enix is a business. Restrictions such as these only serve to alienate players, all of whom pay a sub and might be less inclined to continue doing so if they are frequently gated behind "git gud" walls. That is partly why content is gated through ilvl. It masks the idea you aren't good enough yet by offering an easily obtainable improvement. Unfortunately, those ilvl restrictions haven't been steep enough in Heavensward, thus people have no real reason to improve.

Put another way, you want the actual content to push people not an arbitrarily wall. Think of it like mass pulls. I'm perfectly happy to wipe even to just 3-4 mobs if the damage is high enough we just couldn't handle it. On the other hand, I am quickly bored when the devs place random gates to limit those pulls (looking at you Hullbreaker hard). Why? The first example has me struggling at a skill based level while the second is the developers basically telling "you can't do this because reasons."

[ShinMetsu]

You are neglecting the fact Square Enix is a business. Restrictions such as these only serve to alienate players, all of whom pay a sub and might be less inclined to continue doing so if they are frequently gated behind "git gud" walls.

Yet the system he suggests comes from a MMO 10 times as successful as ffxiv?