How about daily login rewards in Stormblood?

[Mimilu]

I don't want things handed to me. If they are in don't feel like I earned it. Free stuff is nice but they have little value to me.

You should of just said you are in it for the sense of accomplishment and left it at that. The whole "I understand hardwork" speech just makes you sound like an old man complaining about how easy the younger generation have it. :-B

[VanilleFang]

You should of just said you are in it for the sense of accomplishment and left it at that. The whole "I understand hardwork" speech just makes you sound like an old man complaining about how easy the younger generation have it. :-B

And those who argue that we should get free stuff for just showing up sound like entitled millennials who think everyone owes them something.

You decided to play ffxiv voluntarily. If the game isn't enough to keep you, or entice others, than I would rather them work on the issues that are keeping people away rather than giving out free "participation" points as compensation for a lackluster experience.

It's about quality over quantity, not the other way around.

[Lexia]

And those who argue that we should get free stuff for just showing up sound like entitled millennials who think everyone owes them something.

What age we talking about here? As I can't really find a black and white of what a millennial is. Information I have found seem to listed anyone born from 1985-2000 as one which I think person of age 30 has very different views of the world then a person that age 20. In how fast the world is changing these days.

Looking around this think describe it better at what I was getting at

With the exponential rise of scientific development in the last thirty years, sociologists and historians have disingenuously lumped two different generations into one without accounting for the acceptability of technology. They call them Millennials and their time span ranges from the early 80s to the early 2000s. The problem is that the group is too broad.

[VanilleFang]

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I wasn't being specific. I was replying to a ridiculous hyperbolic statement with another ridiculous hyperbolic statement.

[Vexander]

Trying to steer this back on track...

How -would- people feel about a Veteran Award System where you have a shop that spends, 'Veteran Points,' in exchange for glamours, dyes, minions, and maybe even a mount or two, opening up everything on the Mogstation for availability, and also eventually adding some things which are exclusive to the Veteran Shop, and cannot be purchased on the Mogstation? Veteran Points would be acquired at the start of each month you are subscribed, starting once the new Veteran Reward System goes into effect? An example.

1. New System goes live 6/1/2017.
2. Everyone subscribed as of 6/1/2017 gets 30 Veteran Points.
3. NPCs in the main cities exchange points for Mogstation items, and eventually get Veteran Reward Exclusives not found on the Mogstation.

The above system only requires you to have an active subscription at the start of a month. Maybe have an additional rule that as long as you're subbed for one day that month, you get the points, so if you sub on June 30th, you still get 30 Veteran Points for June.

[VanilleFang]

I think it would work better if they gave points at the end of the month and you would only get the points if you were subbed for x amount of days that month. It's basically the same thing regardless, but I don't hate that idea.

[Vexander]

I think it would work better if they gave points at the end of the month and you would only get the points if you were subbed for x amount of days that month. It's basically the same thing regardless, but I don't hate that idea.

Well, I have no idea how they'd dish out the points and all. I guess my main hope is that Mogstation items would become available in an alternative way than just spending real money. As a subscription based game, we shouldn't really have a cash shop to begin with. I wouldn't mind it so much if there was an in-game way to acquire the items there. Who knows? Maybe tie achievement points to Veteran Awards so you don't just get the points from subscription, but also how much you play the game.

[VanilleFang]

I don't hate the current reward system we have right now, since it's basically a loyalty rewards system and a way for them to say thank you. I understand why people don't like it though.

[Vexander]

I don't hate the current reward system we have right now, since it's basically a loyalty rewards system and a way for them to say thank you. I understand why people don't like it though.

I don't really dislike the existing system either, but they've already said after this new tier its done and they'll add a different system.

[Callinon]

The "poke a thing every day to check in" thing works fine for free-to-play MMOs and mobile games. I don't think it really has a place in a subscription MMO. I wouldn't really care one way or the other if they wanted to do that, but I don't think it really belongs in this game.