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  1. #31
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    Avatar von Bourne_Endeavor
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    They're just gearing up to release all the Primal outfits on the Mogstation. And they won't be genderlocked!
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  2. #32
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    Avatar von Claire_Pendragon
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    Claire Pendragon
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    There's a lot of misunderstanding being said in the thread, and I know the OP was just being light hearted with the thread, I figured it would help to have some things explained properly.
    I will be making statements about the majority of people, obviously excluding the minority, to help keep things simple, and easier to follow.

    While both males and females may like the visuals of the opposite sex, they do so for completely different reasons.
    Males are Primarily attracted to physical features of "health" in the female.
    Females are primarily attracted visuals that represent qualities of the male. (More so in what the male is capable of doing, or most likely to do from personality)

    Most males like wide hips, because it effects childbirth for example.
    So its an extremely common trait among men to like.

    But for what is "good in a man" is dependent on situation.
    What if the situation you're family is in, requires intelligence?
    You cant see intelligence in physical body features.
    So what a woman likes in men, will always be varied from woman to woman, depending on her living conditions, and what SHE deems to be "good" features to have.
    This is why its been much harder for advertising companies to quite nail "the perfect eye candy for women". As you can have half the women loving some muscular male, but the other half, or more, saying they dont like the guy.

    Males will find "scantily clad" clothes more appealing for doing 2 things in the end.
    (1) Showing off the physical features.
    (2) Adding a level of "Daintiness" to the female. (Not all females like their men to be "dainty" looking.)

    Women will find "well groomed" clothes more appealing than less clothes, as its a sign of his "qualities" as you cant see them outside of muscle.
    Which is why half naked men tend to not work. You cant tell how charming he is to interact with, or how intelligent he is by looking at a nude body. You need clothes to represent him. This is why women are primarily attracted to a mans shoes, and then clothes/car more. (Commonly mistaken as just being a gold digger, when in reality, its different)

    Also, to clarify on the Daintiness comment.
    Women are more inclined to be attracted to protective males, and males are more attracted to females who induce a sense of needing to protect the women.
    So the clothes help add to that illusion/feeling in a similar way dress shoes make a guy more attractive to women.

    So in the end, the equivalent "Eye candy" for women is not half naked guys.
    It's just a visual equivalent.
    Only if the male is clothed, AND happens to align himself with her interests, AND wears something to show that off, can he be "eye candy" to her.


    And lastly, for my own personal complaint, no, Garuda isnt comparable to Shiva/Goddess, as shes quite inhuman looking with her hooves, and massive claws.
    She just tends to show off all the features most males are primarily attracted to, but she has a lot of inhuman features by comparison to the other 2.
    As someone else pointed out, Ser Aymrric is a type of eye candy for women. Kind/Warm/Pretty boy. Even Raubahn is eye candy for those who want more muscle/masculine features, with tough, stoic, gentle giant, fierce protector traits, and also Alphinaud for those who want an underage twink girly boy. (Though largely not considered as ok in the US, unless the female is also of the same age.)
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    Geändert von Claire_Pendragon (10.01.17 um 23:51 Uhr)
    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  3. #33
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    Avatar von sarehptar
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    Yehn'zi Panipahr
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    lol to all the "there are half-naked male bosses too" answers. Sophia, Garuda, Shiva, Echidna, etc. etc. are designed specifically to appeal to a certain type of audience, namely those attracted to the stereotype of a gorgeous female figure. The muscle-bound forms of Sephirot, Xande, Titan and so on are, conversely, NOT designed to appeal to the opposite group (those attracted to the stereotype of a gorgeous male figure). They're not in the same category in terms of fanservice at all. :/

    Whether or not they add half-naked male bosses to make up for the "lack" is one thing and not something I'd advocate for, but I for one would love a little more diversity and logic in the female designs... Like why does Garuda have boobs when female Ixal, the origin people for this goddess, don't? There's basically an unwritten rule in the game that if a boss is female, she must be either traditionally beautiful... or scantily clad. Is there any female boss in between? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

    blahblahJapanesegamewhatdoyouexpectIguessblahblah
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    Geändert von sarehptar (09.01.17 um 14:25 Uhr)

  4. #34
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    Avatar von Underdog2204
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    Dacien Valtin
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    There's basically an unwritten rule in the game that if a boss is female, she must be either traditionally beautiful... or scantily clad. Is there any female boss in between? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

    blahblahJapanesegamewhatdoyouexpectIguessblahblah
    Livia sas Junius

    It's highly ignorant to say that only men like to see attractive female figures and faces. You only have to look at any womans magazine to see that it is not the case.

    Its all just confirmation bias bs imo.
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    Geändert von Underdog2204 (09.01.17 um 14:32 Uhr)

  5. #35
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    Livia sas Junius
    Who is implied to not only be traditionally beautiful but also creepily wife husbandry'd with Gaius...

    I mean, I guess, technically, if we want to ignore all other context. So that's one to... nine or something...

    Edit: Bro, I went out of my way to not say only men could be attracted to women's figures. Talk about confirmation bias.
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  6. #36
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    Who is implied to not only be traditionally beautiful but also creepily wife husbandry'd with Gaius...

    I mean, I guess, technically, if we want to ignore all other context. So that's one to... nine or something...

    Edit: Bro, I went out of my way to not say only men could be attracted to women's figures. Talk about confirmation bias.
    Yup you are right, but I was talking in general and agreeing no so much calling you out on it. Yes I could've worded it better but it's late :P

    Well if you wanna ignore the likes of Belladonna then I suppose that would be the case... But that would be highly convenient to do so.
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  7. #37
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    Yehn'zi Panipahr
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    Well if you wanna ignore the likes of Belladonna then I suppose that would be the case... But that would be highly convenient to do so.
    Even the flower has highlighted boobs. Why would in the world does a flower need boobs?

    Because fanservice, that's why. And my point is just that that's a lame reason for so many female bosses to be like this. Diversity in the female boss designs could be a lot broader if they weren't (again, mostly) restricted to traditionally appealing/fanservice forms.
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  8. #38
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    Avatar von Chiramu
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    Cirra Maru
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    More half naked men as bosses, OP says :O!!!!
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  9. #39
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    Avatar von Nirokun
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    Nirokun Moon
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    To be completely unbiased, there's more feminine "eyecandy", this is true. BUT (big but!) there's more sequences with an attractive male being attentive to/interested in our character (Aymeric/Haurchefant). Feminine NPCs don't give that kind of interaction (at least I don't think so, but I could be wrong, there are a lot of prostitutes in Ul'dah). There's one MSQ sequence with a female NPC (2.x), but she's not (SHOULD NOT BE) attractive, nor is the scene very tender.

    I'm all for going on more "dates" with attractive male NPCs, if only to offset all the feminine eyecandy.
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    "Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become." - James Lane Allen

  10. #40
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    Avatar von Nestama
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
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    Even the flower has highlighted boobs. Why would in the world does a flower need boobs?
    She eats men... and I guess anyone who is attracted to her.

    A carnivorous plant native to the Orn Wild, this voracious specimen of flora lures in potential victims by contorting its petals into the form of various beasts. Research conducted at Saint Mocianne's Arboretum concluded that the murderous Belladonna is as likely to prey upon two-legged victims as four.
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