request for Exp reduce

[darkstarpoet1]

bwahahahaha!

special needs much?


it's not like the game is complex

but if it's too complex for you go play Hello Kitty's Island Adventure

who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up. if it wasn't too difficult for them then they could actually play their classes instead of not even knowing what abilities they have nor what they do.

[Xianghua]

who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up. if it wasn't too difficult for them then they could actually play their classes instead of not even knowing what abilities they have nor what they do.

Doesn't matter how someone Gains levels if they are gonna suck they will suck regardless. Everything you learn in your little 5hr parties for 2 months. I can learn in a couple hours looking it up on the web. Even on XI I knew more about jobs I never even touched then some people who leveled up the "legit" way.

[Ilean]

who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up.

what i have an issue with is that someone can sit on a chocobo and never even have to pull out their weapon and get rewarded for doing so.

They aren't in the game for you. Leave them alone with their goals and focus on finding others that share yours.


BTW someone IS working hard for the exp the people on chocobos gain. Maybe you should go see a shrink if stuff other people do, that doesn't affect you at all, bothers you so much.

[Mortikhan]

Wow, so many myths of PL. So many one sided views on an issue that isn't really an issue because people who PL don't affect people who don't PL at all, other than inside their little intolerant minds.


I am with you on point 3, but they would need to make said quests awesome both in gameplay and story instead of crap like that GC chocobo quest. Yes, that means the quests themselves need to be real content instead of retarded boring legwork.

1) I have to assume by your first comment that you have never had a PL group in any game dominate or steal a spawning area from you and a party you were in or that you have never been MPKed by a PL or a Beastmaster in FFXI. I also have to assume that you are concluding that a level 10 Marauder is the same and capable of the same as a level 50 Marauder. PLs and people being PLed always affect others. They dominate camps used by people who party at those locations. They create a group of people who start doing end game material who have to be trained by others to perform the tasks required to complete said content because they are not really all that sure as to what they should be doing to start with. They also affect the economy by bypassing the normal buying and selling of lower end equipment, thus the reason why most Wards only have high end equipment. Not to mention they are normally not ready to fully equip that PLed class because they are too busy going from 10-50 in a few days and have no other means of generating gil. The list goes on and on...I will not bore you more since you don't agree.

Ok to poke holes in this epic story of one mans journey

1 Yeah i kinda agree here

2) I absolutely lawl meeting people really , No one other then JP use the weird ass party search system , now any time and every post i have seen only Linkshells make parties to grind out levels to make their stronger Now I have all ready meet my Linkshell members I dont think every party we make we meet again . So this is what i know meeting people i call shenanigans

3) your High

1) I was not seeking your approval but hey thanks for the thumbs up .

2) Two things. If you lawl at meeting people why are you recruiting for an LS? If you lawl at meeting people then why are you playing an MMO?

3) No I am not but I would prefer to be high than drunk like you for 3 reasons. a) Fewer dents in my car b) No headache c) I don't wake up in a pool of my own vomit or piss.

There are far better ways to simulate PLing that are fun for everyone involved and will teach people to play the game and take a little pride in what they are playing regardless of what class they are playing at the time. I would much rather see a level synching system than have a PL experience. At least people actually have to participate in order to level then.

[Ilean]

1) I have to assume by your first comment that you have never had a PL group in any game dominate or steal a spawning area from you and a party you were in or that you have never been MPKed by a PL or a Beastmaster in FFXI. I also have to assume that you are concluding that a level 10 Marauder is the same and capable of the same as a level 50 Marauder. PLs and people being PLed always affect others. They dominate camps used by people who party at those locations. They create a group of people who start doing end game material who have to be trained by others to perform the tasks required to complete said content because they are not really all that sure as to what they should be doing to start with. They also affect the economy by bypassing the normal buying and selling of lower end equipment, thus the reason why most Wards only have high end equipment. Not to mention they are normally not ready to fully equip that PLed class because they are too busy going from 10-50 in a few days and have no other means of generating gil. The list goes on and on...I will not bore you more since you don't agree.

No, I agree that the ability to reach 50 quick does affect the world.

Just it simply does, it's not positive or negative.

PL groups steal camps? PFFT Give me a break! They are only as likely to do it as non PL groups. Douches will be douches, PL or not.

How about this? PL groups actually help you with leveling because they get much more exp than a regular group so they move out from camp quicker.

[Mortikhan]

No, I agree that the ability to reach 50 quick does affect the world.

Just it simply does, it's not positive or negative.

PL groups steal camps? PFFT Give me a break! They are only as likely to do it as non PL groups. Douches will be douches, PL or not.

How about this? PL groups actually help you with leveling because they get much more exp than a regular group so they move out from camp quicker.

Oh it can be seen either way and I am all for it but as it is now...nah. Like I said earlier I would rather see a level synching system where all players are involved and helping rather than a stand around and collect XP party.

[GemGenie]

If they lengthen grinding time again. Then new comer for 1.2 will feel disconnected.

I mean 2.0

[GemGenie]

it's rather pathetic that people would want to come into a multiplayer game and not group up to learn how to play their classes. if you want the easy way completion there are plenty of rpg's you can use cheat codes and get there.

Wow. So there really some people think that grinding weak mobs for months is the way to learn your class. Is ff target for age 3+? Yoship pls answer

[AtryxEtair]

Wow. So there really some people think that grinding weak mobs for months is the way to learn your class. Is ff target for age 3+? Yoship pls answer

Where is the logic behind this? You can be skilled without killing the same things for inordinate amounts of time? Of course! But I can guarantee 99.9% all those skilled players have been playing stat based MMOs and RPGs for years. That in itself is a grind. They know what they are doing because they have done it before a million other time in a million other games. The problem is the new people. When you new it something it takes PRACTICE. So let's talk about PRACTICE.

A few of the most acclaimed skills in today's society...artwork, professional athleticism, singing, public speaking, and acting. How do people get good at these things. Yes, many are born with a natural born talent and understanding but it is by no means given to them.

How does one get good at painting? They paint a boat, then they paint the same thing but better. And again and again and again. How do professional athletes practice? They focus 90% of their time and effort in the fundamentals. Passing, dribbling, shooting, running, jumping, ect. How does one get better at singing? They sing a song, then again, but better, and again and again and again. How do people get better at public speech? They practice the same speech in front of a mirror for hours a day, days on end until it's perfect. How do people get better at acting? They take the scene and act it out a hundred times until its perfect.

They put in all this hard work so they can be the best they can be when the times comes.

There is no easy way to increase your fundamental skill at something. If there was a way around having to work to be good at something then life would be pointless. Yes! This is a game and it's supposed to be fun and enjoyable, but it should also take time. Even though there are many of us who can be GREAT at it without spending countless hours. But there are also just as many if not more who can't. And it isn't fair to be shot to the top of something past everyone else in a game just because of how "awesome" you are. Or how bad it hurts your ego if you aren't.

TL;DR
If you want to be good at something, it will take hard work and time...period. However, I agree it needs to be fun and enjoyable because this is a game. And you don't deserve to be pampered for being a better player. (Rewards excluded of course)

If you don't want to spend a large amount of effort into increasing your character's power. Then be prepared to sacrifice you characters worth and the quality of the community as well.

[Shneibel]

Wow. So there really some people think that grinding weak mobs for months is the way to learn your class. Is ff target for age 3+? Yoship pls answer

before you start to insult or try to provoke the flame, re-read the fist post of the thread first , re-read your quote and re-read your reply.

remind: this thread is not about grind, not about hardcore vs casual, not about grind fest or not about I love to grind. It is about the exp from party & pl