Thread: How would they fix PLD 4.0?

Originally Posted by shao32

PLD have a lot of it, is the tank with more mitigations tools

He has a lot of self-mitigation tools. When it comes to mitigating damage for the party, it's actually the weakest.

Originally Posted by shao32

improving that raid or outside mitigation tools dont solve nothing for now bcs tanks only need to survive the hit

Yes, and most of the time, the really meaningful hits you have to survive kind of requires your tank stance, even for only a few seconds. Give PLD something to counter even that, and it will have something to offer different than WAR or DRK.
The idea is, basically, if you have a PLD OT, your MT doesn't need its tank stance.

Originally Posted by shao32

being viable MT dont mean being better at MT with is diferent

In a DPS centered meta, it's almost the same. What do you need to be a tank ? Basically, generating enmity and surviving. Enmity is clearly a non-issue, so let's put that away. PLD might be considered a "better MT" than WAR, because, with (debatable) more self-mitigation, it can survive more. But, as you said earlier, "as long as you survive enough, more is useless", and since WAR does more damage, as long as he's viable, he's better.

Originally Posted by shao32

it can be a posibility, not remove the effect but being a personal 10% damage buff instead, storm eye is the most powerfull buff for now not only incresing the damage of the tanks, they buff and improve a lot ninja rotation

They already have Maim for that...and on 2nd-tier WS. But remove Slashing Debuff, and you'll have a horde of WAR and NIN raging on the OF for years

Originally Posted by shao32

we all do dps anyway, so we can keep battle litany and trick attack, apart excep monk no other dps job is "taking away"

Yes, we all do DPS. And since jobs are "balanced" between high personal DPS and high raid-utility (Mostly DPS ), it's only logical for tanks to play by the same rules.

Originally Posted by shao32

buffing by buffing its a game breaking

I think it's less game breaking to indirectly buff DPS by opening strategic setups than by buffing personal DPS. And since DPS is the only meta that matters (saddly) this is the only lever for job desirability.