Thread: How would they fix PLD 4.0?

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I fully agree with you there. And I'd love to see more to defense/offense prioritization than just stances. (See suggested TP rehaul in previous post.)

I just find it worrisome that a lot of tanks who full-time their tank stance excuse it with claims of identity, but are in fact just incapable of tracking damage intervals. It makes me wonder just how many tanks would die out flat after being carried that long, as soon as survivability can't be cheesed at cost of 'merely' dps.

I think this very easy to imagine. I constantly am in situations where the healer lets me get dangerously low (and yes I'm popping CD, self healing etc). I'm not going to make it easier for myself to die if the healers wants to play how many times below 10% can you go. I want to clear the dungeon not watch the last second heal after too many dps spells.

I change stance if the healer is keeping me alive or if there is no reason to worry (low damage mobs or no damage situations), but besides getting used to end game content I don't see people really wanting to stance dance when it just increases the stress (certain jobs have more encouragement, like abilities being locked).

Besides I don't think it's a good idea for at least Paladin in terms of identity, I actually think that's a good argument. Like why SE refused to add HP sacrificing to Dark Knight - removing your defense abilities is like HP sacrificing. I don't mind they encourage dancing and shifting around to the situation, but I also don't mind people suggestion that its less of a defensive hit since THAT is your job. And if you're not in a well tuned group the dance could just make everything more painful than helpful.

So I don't think its hard to imagine life long tanks just sticking to a stance, because from DF that's probably one of the better ideas if you want to clear things successfully the first time (at least depending on your job).