Thread: How would they fix PLD 4.0?

Originally Posted by Sarcatica

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looks like someone is salty today, ok i make it more clear for you then.

in any moment i say GRIT/SHo/DEFIANCE are good, in fact i the first one i say our tank stance (that one we are supose need for tank thinks) become pretty useles in this expansion and need to be fixed, most of the problems you adressed by agro come from ppl how refuse to use the tank stance to dealt more DEEEPEEEZE.

our tank stance need to be improve in stormblood, stance dance become our gameplay dinamic, and im talking about true stance dancing, not the awful opener and never touch it again like we are doing now so this is why i counter you changes, our tank stances are still important and make it more useles dont go to solve nothing, only have more threast of how booring is our jobs if you take more actions out the table, people complain so much bcs they bastardize gameplay dont work with the actual desing of the jobs.

Originally Posted by shao32

looks like someone is salty today, ok i make it more clear for you then.

in any moment i say GRIT/SHo/DEFIANCE are good, in fact i the first one i say our tank stance (that one we are supose need for tank thinks) become pretty useles in this expansion and need to be fixed, most of the problems you adressed by agro come from ppl how refuse to use the tank stance to dealt more DEEEPEEEZE.

our tank stance need to be improve in stormblood, stance dance become our gameplay dinamic, and im talking about true stance dancing, not the awful opener and never touch it again like we are doing now so this is why i counter you changes, our tank stances are still important and make it more useles dont go to solve nothing, only have more threast of how booring is our jobs if you take more actions out the table, people complain so much bcs they bastardize gameplay dont work with the actual desing of the jobs.

It's a deliberate design when SE has been 'ignoring' the part where good players actually don't use tank stance for majority of the fights. Heck, they even designed raid contents around DPS checks. What gives? If you think I am salty then you are free to think so, but it doesn't change the fact that ShO/Defiance/Grit aren't as used as much, hasn't happened for 1 full expansion and 2.x was also pretty stringent on most of the parts, just something you didn't actually know and the meta itself wasn't fleshed up properly yet. If they thought the whole tank stance being borderline craptastic, they had 2 raid patches to actually fix it BUT what has happened so far? Nothing much changes.

PLD DPS stance is underwhelming... All it does is make your auto attack a double attack, and the is potential in that, which could make PLD more viable OT than DRK. Like making every debuff that PLD inflicts double in duration increased effect potency while also making every offensive abilitya and weaponskill be a double attack much like the auto attack. PLD level 60 job weaponskill can be buffed to where it give a damage dealt boost that you have to maintain but have it at 15% boost that last 21 seconds. As for defense, PLD is set but needs more healing abilities for parties and make it feel like the PLD it was meant to be...

BATTLE RES! <.< >.> o.o

Completely rework DRK so it's not just a slightly better PLD.

Originally Posted by Launched

Completely rework DRK so it's not just a slightly better PLD.

I'd rather they rework PLD so it isn't just the tanky tank and actually has some identity (especially in the OT slot). Also AOE please

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

I'd rather they rework PLD so it isn't just the tanky tank and actually has some identity (especially in the OT slot). Also AOE please

This so much, the paladin has absolutely zero identity.
It's just a tank with trillions of cooldodwns and one of the most boring rotation in game.
To people saying "no but you can min max your dmg with the dot and royal authority", yes, When I play tank it is definitely to dps. I rolled tank in order to bring dps to the group.
Divine Shell and Clemency are a good start but paladin needs much more than that.