Needs More?

[Betelgeuzah]

Well if SE value feedback (which they are constantly reminding us that they do), then they will want to know if players are feeling like there is little/nothing left to do.

I don't think theres anything wrong with saying "I've maxed my jobs, beaten all the dungeons, done the main story and I feel like theres nothing of importance left to do"

That's easy to find out. Are people playing less, are subs dropping? Coming to the forums to bitch, if it doesn't lead anywhere, is hardly feedback that matters. On the other hand, OP could have got the point across by just stopping to play due to lack of content.

On the other hand, "we need more content" really is not much of useful feedback. Every MMO dev knows that whatever amount of content they put out, players demand more. But if the sub numbers are stable, meaning the demands don't really lead anywhere, then they are putting out enough content.

There's anything wrong with quitting a game when you have nothing to do. You don't have to come out and say anything. That's what most people do, and that's far better way to get your point across than bitching yet still hanging around.

[Avraym]

There's anything wrong with quitting a game when you have nothing to do. You don't have to come out and say anything. That's what most people do, and that's far better way to get your point across than bitching yet still hanging around.

Perhaps his tone and wording could use some revision but I think his case in point is fair.

The dev's have always stressed that they want our opinions on the patches.

I think they'd rather us say "Theres not enough here", respond with, "Okay, we'll try and implement more things to do in the next patch" than to stop subscribing all together.

FFXIV always felt like a collaberation between the dev's and the players, more than any other game. I don't think its like other games where you just leave when theres nothing left.

[Betelgeuzah]

I think they'd rather us say "Theres not enough here", respond with, "Okay, we'll try and implement more things to do in the next patch" than to stop subscribing all together.

But then they don't have any incentive to do so. There has to be an incentive for a corporation to spend more resources on the product. If there is no clear benefit for doing so, there is no incentive either. It's not a charity organization.

FFXIV is only a collaboration to the level in which it helps the company to meet their bottom line. Also, it is a customer's choice and almost a responsibility to leave when there is nothing left to do. Not doing so only gives the corporation the excuse to not perform better.

[Shneibel]

Perhaps his tone and wording could use some revision but I think his case in point is fair.

The dev's have always stressed that they want our opinions on the patches.

I think they'd rather us say "Theres not enough here", respond with, "Okay, we'll try and implement more things to do in the next patch" than to stop subscribing all together.

FFXIV always felt like a collaberation between the dev's and the players, more than any other game. I don't think its like other games where you just leave when theres nothing left.

and his point is something we already know. If he look at the letter, there ll be 2 more dungeon add at next patch and if he doesn't like that quit the game is his best option

[Avraym]

and his point is something we already know. If he look at the letter, there ll be 2 more dungeon add at next patch and if he doesn't like that quit the game is his best option

Thats the next patch after (1.21). Which is early feb most likely (3 months away).

I'd say his best option is to express his opinion. If enough people say, "this isn't enough" but keep subscribing at the promise of more content, its win-win for both SE and the Players ran than them losing a large amount of their player base.

Theres been more threads now about needing something to do than ever.

It's obviously an issue that shouldn't be resolved by quitting.