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    Well XI didn't have a multi-layered Class -> Job system so the conventions used there may not hold true for XIV. There's really no precedent for this kind of a system for FF. There have been Jobs -> Other/Advanced Jobs but they're generally completely separate.

    Considering classes and jobs are linked more intimately, it's hard to tell how it's going to work out. When a class progresses in level, it indirectly increases the power of the job (stat wise at least). Job progression is kept separate from the class though as it is done through a series of quests/missions.

    Considering this, there would need to be as many job sets are there are class sets to keep up. Otherwise given enough time the class armor will overcome the job armor stat wise. However after a certain point, I can't really see using the classes. From what I've seen so far with the skill lists, it seems like you get the job skills on top of whatever class skills the job comes from. The WS combos for jobs that branch off of classes lead me to this conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Well XI didn't have a multi-layered Class -> Job system so the conventions used there may not hold true for XIV.
    It's really not that different when you get down to it though.

    Especially in armour terms, you can either wear it, or you can't.

    Classes won't have any effect on the colour of armour either.

    However after a certain point, I can't really see using the classes. From what I've seen so far with the skill lists, it seems like you get the job skills on top of whatever class skills the job comes from. The WS combos for jobs that branch off of classes lead me to this conclusion.
    It's a whole lot more than just skills though, stats will change dramtically, as will traits.

    If anything it'd going to be there other way round, which could end up meaning job specific gear may become more suaght after down the road.
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    I'm much more concerned with what the stats on them will be and whether or not they will be U/U. Will they be meldable?

    On one hand I hope they will be better suited for their respective job at Lv 50 than any crafted gear with even up to 3 materia, but on the other hand the con of that being everyone looking identical when on the same job can be upsetting.

    First and foremost I'd want the stats to be very exceptional as to be preferred over crafted gear, and should it turn out as such then I suppose the ability to dye them different colors would take care of that con.

    If they do let us dye them though, I would hope for the colors to be limited to a certain palette. Seeing a black mage in pure white gear and a white mage in very dark colors would be somewhat... off-putting.

    In the end, no big deal though. Just my opinion. Choices are always nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    I would rather have an option to transfer the look of that armor to another like in Aion.
    Looking a the drawing those AF's look awesome but Yoshi said that AF quests will begin at 30.
    Therefore, alot of that pieces will most likely be worse than some crafted items unless this is the only gear jobs can wear and the current armor we have is class only.
    Not necessarily, there could be an effect or bonus that the lvl 30 AF could have that makes it much better than the end crafted gear, and I'm hoping this is so. maybe some pieces can be replaced, but for the most part having that gear on your job will be more beneficial at first, at least till there is a lvl cap increase and we have to go with crafted until AF2.

    My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    Will we be able to choose what color we want our AF gear to be?
    This would be pretty awesome. Though I can tell you it would be pretty weird to see a Black Mage in White AF armor.

    inb4 Akatsuke White Mage
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    Actually just to point out it is JSE not AF... in an interview they asked Yoshi-P about Artifact Armor and he said something along the lines of there are no artifacts in Eorzea during this time and the the jobs would get JSE (Job Specific Equipment). Also if I remember right in another interview it was also mentioned they might be coming out with CSE (Class Specific Equipment).

    Just a little FYI and I would link the interviews but I don't feel like hunting them all down again >< sorry!!

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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    actually I used "AF" because it is stated in the pdf files.

    note: FFXIVaf:BARD
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    actually I used "AF" because it is stated in the pdf files.

    note: FFXIVaf:BARD
    That is true and I saw that as well which is why when I read the interview I kind of went huh? Oh well anyways I do think the idea of coloring them is good... its not like changing the color of the armor will change what you are playing :P

    So all is good ^^

    The cat is amused =^.^=
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    I like the idea of multicolor if the accents stay the same. Big hats for BLM with cross stitch. Pointed brim with feather and gold trim for RDM. The red triangles and hoods for WHM. THOSE things make the armor special.
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    It's funny how many people are like OMG IT NEEDS TO BE ONE COLOR ONRY. Really? Square just did that and are currently changing it. Yes, I'm not lying. You seen almost all CNJ in red robes right? Yeah. Was it fun? No.

    Why make the same mistake twice? We only have 5 jobs. Everyone will look the same. How can you people LIKE everyone looking the same? Quit with this tradition shit, this is Final Fantasy XIV, not Final Fantasy I
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