Why so toxic?

[Qojon]

So why not seek discussion on 4chan?

I need a waifu in my laifu.

I have a recommendation.

[Jpec07]

The forums have become more vitriolic of late, I'll concur. It could be because we're bored while we wait for the next patch. It could be because we all have some discontent with the game, and none of us can agree on what the source of that discontent is. It could be that there is a growing chasm here between elitists and us "filthy casuals," and both sides forget that the other is also human.

Things could get better once 3.5 drops, and they could improve dramatically when 4.0 drops. It remains to be seen.

Web forums tend towards toxicity unless they are moderated pretty strictly (I've been on a lot of forums in my day, and this is pretty consistently true). As awesome as the moderating staff is here, they are not very strict (and nor can they be without substantially bolstering their numbers, and establishing some kind of due process for moderating decisions that can exempt them from legal recourse).

[Sciwolf]

This is nothing like the WoW forums. They had to fire a mod because he lost it and started replying to all the trolls.

[Maero]

Other ffxiv forums are not toxic, just this one is rather bad.

People love to quote each other and start arguements for the sake of arguing

[Hayward]

Enjoy if you don't already know about this, a whole thread dedicated to mocking the NA FFXIV forums. It's fun to read.
https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/11...meant-for-alts.

Typical of that lot. They've defined toxic since 2005.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Want instant toxicity here? Just praise the game or the devs themselves and wait for someone to shame you for liking something.

[Remus]

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That can also work the other way round when pointing out the bad things haha. They both always lead to arguments. I have to say though from what I see when people make positive threads majority of the posts are positive and the people who think other wise ignore it. When a thread is about the bad parts of the game and given good reason for it the positive people will hop into that thread and ask why they still play if they think it has so many bad points even when the game isn't perfect. I see so many people say people give bad feedback but anytime I read feedback people say what they hate and why they hate it and then a potential solution.

That's just from what I have seen though. Also I prefer reddit over the official forums as well. There is quite interesting discussions there sometimes compared to the official forums which is just full of can i have certain glamour/housing/minion... you get the idea. Some people like it so I won't say they are not allowed to ask for it. It's just when something isn't related to those things it just dies which is quite sad too be honest because some people have thought of some good ideas.

I find it amusing how even Yoshi-p references reddit during tokyo fanfest and not even the official forum when it comes to speculating his shirt.

[Iromi]

Reddit is way worse lol if you have a positive but different opinion, the hive mind (ew) down votes you.

People are toxic for different reasons. Everyone is different so there really is not one answer for it...

[Jpec07]

Reddit is way worse lol if you have a positive but different opinion, the hive mind (ew) down votes you.

Hive-mind? That sounds pretty Gnath-ty to me.

Honestly, you're right. People want so badly to be validated in their negative opinions that they lash out against anyone who disagrees. I can't properly count the amount of times I've had someone deflect my arguments with an ad hominem accusation of "white knighting" for supplying a lengthy, reasoned argument as a counter to their own hatred (note, if you accuse someone of white-knighting but don't counter their arguments, then you're both admitting defeat to their logic, and are a part of the problem). On the forums and on Reddit, people don't want to let other people enjoy something.

It's like how on every Pokémon Go page on Facebook, just about every post has at least a dozen people who are adamant and insistent that no one plays it anymore.

[DamianFatale]

Because people constantly post stupid threads.

If people post threads with intelligent commentary about the game, ideas or opinions that warrant discussion. Good on them.

But what we get instead is constant threads like the 'Why is Eorzea a clone of Earth'
'We need a cheap change-to-lalafell fantasia potion'

And 'lalafell hate crimes'

To give you some prime examples.

Did you even read the Lalafell Hate Crime thread? It was a silly joke thread. It wasn't serious at all.