[Suggestion] Icon/tooltip indicating if an item can be bought from a vendor

[Niwashi]

Buying something from Market Board already implies that there is at least one other way of getting the item. So I don’t see how anyone could ever think that MB is the only option to get the item.

But the MB could still be their only source if they haven't leveled crafters and gatherers, for instance, or if they aren't at a level to run all the hardest content, or if they haven't gotten lucky with a rare drop, or if they don't have access to a garden, and so on. There's all kinds of reasons why someone may not have had a chance to get something on their own that might make it worth buying from the Market Board. (The market board wouldn't even exist if that weren't the case.)

A person who's duped into paying a huge sum for something to avoid having to level up multiple classes or farm lots of dungeon runs just hoping to get it, when in fact their other option is to go pay an NPC just a few gil, has been duped. And sellers who are deliberately targeting such players are scam artists.

If somebody bought an orchestrion roll for a million gil when it came out, because they thought that must be a really rare dungeon drop or from content they hadn't unlocked, since it's one they hadn't even seen yet in all the runs they'd done, and they'd already bought all the vendor ones a long time ago, when in fact it's one that had been recently released and is sold for 5k by talking to Maisenta, do you think that player chose the convenience of being allowed to pay a million gil for it instead? Or do you think the player who bought it for 5k and listed it for a million managed to scam them?

Every time new readily available items come out, they go up on the MB at these sort of scam artist prices, and a few of them sell that way. Scam artists don't need to be protected. When listing something above NPC price is genuinely about convenience, then letting people know the NPC price won't stop those sales. The only sales that would be impacted are ones that should never have happened in the first place. (Or i should say, the only sales that would be negatively affected, since an item that genuinely is hard to come by might sell for more if that fact were made more readily apparent.)

[CayaLuna]

But the MB could still be their only source if they haven't leveled crafters and gatherers, for instance, or if they aren't at a level to run all the hardest content, or if they haven't gotten lucky with a rare drop, or if they don't have access to a garden, and so on. There's all kinds of reasons why someone may not have had a chance to get something on their own that might make it worth buying from the Market Board. (The market board wouldn't even exist if that weren't the case.)

A person who's duped into paying a huge sum for something to avoid having to level up multiple classes or farm lots of dungeon runs just hoping to get it, when in fact their other option is to go pay an NPC just a few gil, has been duped. And sellers who are deliberately targeting such players are scam artists.

If somebody bought an orchestrion roll for a million gil when it came out, because they thought that must be a really rare dungeon drop or from content they hadn't unlocked, since it's one they hadn't even seen yet in all the runs they'd done, and they'd already bought all the vendor ones a long time ago, when in fact it's one that had been recently released and is sold for 5k by talking to Maisenta, do you think that player chose the convenience of being allowed to pay a million gil for it instead? Or do you think the player who bought it for 5k and listed it for a million managed to scam them?

Every time new readily available items come out, they go up on the MB at these sort of scam artist prices, and a few of them sell that way. Scam artists don't need to be protected. When listing something above NPC price is genuinely about convenience, then letting people know the NPC price won't stop those sales. The only sales that would be impacted are ones that should never have happened in the first place. (Or i should say, the only sales that would be negatively affected, since an item that genuinely is hard to come by might sell for more if that fact were made more readily apparent.)

1. I think you are vastly underestimating the intelligence of an average FFXIV player.

2. The purpose of Market Board is for people to make profit. No one goes there to sell things at a loss. It’s not a Charity Board. Don’t like overpaying for stuff, don’t use it. Every item on MB can be obtained by playing the game.

3. It’s buyer’s responsibility to research an item before buying. Google it, ask about it in FC or LS. It’s not a rocket science. Most people know how to do it in real life (comparing prices online, looking for discounts, etc.) so it’s not like they are unable to do it while playing.

Anyways, I feel like this discussion has run its course and I have better things to do. Bye!

[Niwashi]

1. I think you are vastly underestimating the intelligence of an average FFXIV player.

I'm pointing out something that happens regularly every time new items are added or new ways of obtaining them are added. You'll see easily obtainable stuff listed at completely outrageous prices, and if you check the history you'll see that some pieces actually sell that way.

2. The purpose of Market Board is for people to make profit.

Which you can still do perfectly well even if your ability to scam them is taken away. There are plenty of people who will buy stuff because they want to. You don't have to trick anyone into it. Information is perfectly harmless to legitimate trades.

Just like legitimate businesses are perfectly able to make a good profit in the real world, you can do so in-game as well. You don't have to resort to scams as the only way to make money.