[Suggestion] Icon/tooltip indicating if an item can be bought from a vendor

[nranola]

Do you know this: Libra Eorzea
This is the official app from SE for smartphones and such devices, IT IS PART OF THE GAME.
They give you the possibility to get all info you need to find most items ingame with their own app for the game and it doesn't cost anything.

Or just use xivdb, the best database for this game.

I know of Libra Eorzea, and I also know of the several other resources sites out there. I use them regularly. But clearly a lot of players don't know - or don't bother - to look up online whether an item can be bought from a vendor or not, because that's the only reason I can see as to why a person would buy, in the particular example I keep citing, an easily accessible 6,000g item for 20,000~30,000g on the marketboard. The suggestion I'm making is to have icons/tooltips in place for each item to give players a heads up as to whether an item can be bought from a vendor or not. This can be expanded to multiple icons/tooltips if the item can be obtained in multiple ways, similar to how Gamerescape does it.

In the end it boils down to "I have a item, you want it and how much are you willing to do or pay for it?".
If you are not willing to do anything (google search, Libra, XIVDB, dungeon farms, gathering, crafting, leveling, ...) you have to pay the price the salesman set or you just don't get it at all.

Then, as the developer, help the players develop healthier buying habits, right? Have things in place within the game that will help players become more informed buyers.

I can't find listing a 6,000g item for 20,000g on the marketboard as morally sound despite that "I list it they buy it" reasoning. 14,000g is not chump change for players who have limited resources.

[Darvahoya]

As they say - Caveat Emptor, which means buyer beware. This has been the market policy since the dawn of history and it still makes sense in a virtual world market like FFXIV.

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[Nicobo]

....I can't find listing a 6,000g item for 20,000g on the marketboard as morally sound despite that "I list it they buy it" reasoning. 14,000g is not chump change for players who have limited resources.

Above example not good! ^^;
For crafting 5-10min, you earn much more than above,
so when someone would spent 5-10mins check the MB, go to buy and list for sell and eventually sold, just only earn 14000G! ^^;

Actually a lot of ppl very rich, they like one-stop shopping and they feel good to save their time as time > gil.
Moreover, some ppl even like one-click shopping, they will pay more for saving some clicks,
i.e. buying one time $25000 for 2pc (one listing) instead of 2 times $10000 (2 listings) each.

So my suggestion is, let it be. IMO anything listing more than vendor price is expansive.

[nranola]

Having as much information provided from within the game would be ideal, yeah, and it would be great if SE can make that happen. You're right about the prices; if they're going to implement an icon feature, it would make more sense to include the vendor price and vendor location as well. It's going to be helpful for crafters and it better addresses the concerns I have with players relisting vendor items on the marketboard.

[CayaLuna]

Sigh… Let’s ask SE to spend days designing, developing, localising, testing, etc. because some people can’t be bothered to spend less than a minute to google something.

It’s buyer’s responsibility to do research before buying. It’s common sense!

[MikeWW]

Caya, there's only several dozen high value items which people like to buy from vendors and resell on the market board at a high markup. SE could isolate the items down to just a few key vendors, like furniture vendors, and using a spreadsheet for items by vendor, tack on text stating that the item is sold by the vendor at vendor location for price in gil by referring to column with price.

Collectively, the amount of time people have spent googling what vendor sells what has likely added up to thousands of hours. Tabbing out is more time-consuming and more immersion-breaking than a little sentence at the end of item description popups.

Also, your mom is common sense.

[nranola]

There's no more point discussing this with you people so stuck in your heads about how something can't be done. Editing first post to add some more points if SE ever comes across this thread, and then I'm out.

[nomad440]

Agreed. however I tend to work outside the markets, want a piece of gear? Sure, boost me 10 HQ pieste skins and its yours! I find that this is more of a fair-trade with people, especially noobs, who as we know, are basically broke

[Lujan]

Really please Google Just google this is also how people start to make money if a person is either 2 lazy or can not be bothered to take 2 minutes to check google, if an item is sold via an npc. Then whatever pay the price no tool tip is needed IMO I mean cloud acorns seeds were sold at 50k each I spent 15 mins and found out the vendor is in the residential district like really. Each seed was 500 gil.

A lot of new players who want to start making gil I offer this advice to buy npc items people are 2 lazy to port and buy from an npc not mega gil but it's a starting point.

Iron ore stack total is 2389 MB price on Fag is 25k it may not seem like a lot to me and trust me it's not but to a level 10 starting out that's a lot of gil with all the teleports and stuff needed to level.

[SimonRose]

I have no problem with someone buying from an NPC and reselling on the MB. Anyone can do it. Too lazy to do your homework? That's on you.

When I started 2 1/2 years ago, I was like most newbs, wondering how to make gil. It wasn't long till I realized I could buy from an NPC and sell for a profit on the MB. I remember how thrilled I was the first time I bought orange juice for something like 5 gil and sold a stack for 100 each. I continued this practice with a variety of items till my gatherers, and a few crafters, were able to start making me money.

I haven't done this in quite some time, but as a Trade Mentor, I often see Sprouts on the Novice Network inquiring how can they make some money. A few times I have partied up with one of them and explained this strategy. I'll have them shop at an NPC and tell me an item and it's amount, while I stand at the MB and check it's availability, pricing and history. I'll tell them how many to buy and what to sell them for. It's a winning practice for a beginner. One of these Sprouts had 39k gil when we met. Within a day he had made 140k. Overnight. Not bad for a beginner. You won't get rich this way, but it's a great way to start.

As has been said, do your homework. Gamerescape is a great resource for finding all ways to acquire items, from drops to crafting to NPC sales to gathering. With the advent of the Novice Network, all a Sprout need do is ask, and if your server is anything like mine, they'll readily get all the answers they need, probably with some offers of freebies.

Working as Intended in my opinion.

(This post is not directed to anyone in particular.)