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  1. #31
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Horrible idea.

    I'm fairly certain if you're asking for this you haven't touched 150+. No healer? Dead. Someone not on the ball with dodges? Dead, potentially even wiping the entire party. Some random pulling hate on a Chimera at a bad time? Everyone gets AOE'd and instant-wipe.

    Many literally have enrage timers if your party (like most pickups in PotD) is playing half asleep.

    And, welp, there goes hours wasted for everyone.
    Actually, no. You can handle every floor without a dedicated healer just fine. You simply need to be careful and know when to exploit your self heals. Paladins can also serve a pseudo-healer if needed and we all know Warrior is just stupid with all its self-healing. Would the necessary coordination work in duty finder though? Probably not. At the same time, who cares? If you don't want to risk a bad group, you can still go in with a premade.
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  2. #32
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    150+, there is a Flood Dragon mob that turns around to use an ice puddle AOE 5-6 sec after you pull it that does around half health on non tanks on impact and applies a frostbite that ticks for an insane amount of damage (5k per tick on dps) that will drop someone in about 2 ticks with no healing or cleanse. Need a fast cleanse for that or paean if no dodge. Worst mob in there.

    Chimera is next since the voices need to be silenced and a non dodge causes a one shot. The worm doesn't use the draw in insta wipe unless you dps it too slow. Crawler uses a really bad poison but if you stun after getting slowed you can avoid it.

    Rest of the mobs can be cheesed by stunning.

    They can add it to DF, just put a difficulty warning. 101-151 is pretty easy though. Malboros are pretty cheap and the self destructing slimes are back but those are the only two mobs I remember being annoying in that bracket.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-05-2017 at 03:27 AM.

  3. #33
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    Renius's Avatar
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    Atticus Max
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    You've failed to understand the point of floors 101-200. All you're asking for is the ability to get bad players that ruin your save file by wiping you, though.

    And no, the hard-Gameover on a teamwipe does NOT need to be removed. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.
    They are not going to remove the option of going in with a fixed party, if that is what you want. All we are asking is to let those of us that want to go in with matched to be able to do so. It is called give me the choice and I can decide what I want to do. To just have it gated for no REAL reason is ludicrous.
    The funny part of this is that there REALLY is NO reason to have it gated. You can choose what you want to do if you want to go it with fixed party that is YOUR choice. Don't try to dictate what I am doing based on what you want to do. No one is asking you to join a mixed party if YOU do not want to. You queue as you see fit. What is the big deal? I pay $$ and I want to have a choice that's called freedom of decision. Is there an amendment for that? How about “Freedom of Choice” is a fundamental right, grouped with a “Right to Privacy”. The Ninth Amendment alludes to it and the Fourteenth Amendment enforces it.
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    Last edited by Renius; 01-05-2017 at 04:29 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    They are not going to remove the option of going in with a fixed party, if that is what you want. All we are asking is to let those of us that want to go in with matched to be able to do so. It is called give me the choice and I can decide what I want to do. To just have it gated for no REAL reason is ludicrous.
    The funny part of this is that there REALLY is NO reason to have it gated. You can choose what you want to do if you want to go it with fixed party that is YOUR choice. Don't try to dictate what I am doing based on what you want to do. No one is asking you to join a mixed party if YOU do not want to. You queue as you see fit. What is the big deal? I pay $$ and I want to have a choice that's called freedom of decision. Is there an amendment for that? How about “Freedom of Choice” is a fundamental right, grouped with a “Right to Privacy”. The Ninth Amendment alludes to it and the Fourteenth Amendment enforces it.
    First of all, you have no idea what the ninth amendment and fourteenth amendment are about. At least, not the US Constitutional Amendments. Maybe some othercountry. Second of all, freedom of choice is not a fundamental right. Third of all, throwing money at a company does not entail control of the product's further development. I also pay my sub and I want light speed on black mage. Does that mean they should give black mage light speed? No, it just means I want it and if enough people want it and if granting it would not piss off enough people that they leave and cost SE more money than granting lightspeed would gain, it would probably be a good idea to then do it. Even if it is a good idea, they are in no way obligated to do it. You didn't outright say they are obligated to, but you definitely implied it.
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  5. #35
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    Then why don't you keep running matched? Don't lump literally everyone in with what you, personally- find fun.
    Because you can't match on these floors and that's the point of this thread?
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    I pay $$ and I want
    says it all
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  7. #37
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    Atticus Max
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    Quote Originally Posted by OoglieBooglie View Post
    No, it just means I want it and if enough people want it and if granting it would not piss off enough people that they leave and cost SE more money than granting lightspeed would gain, it would probably be a good idea to then do it.
    How can you try and make an argument and then use what I say to make the point? Read the paragraph you used. Is that NOT the same thing? I never said that they HAVE to do anything I did however ask for it and to quote you: "No, it just means I want it and if enough people want it and if granting it would not piss off enough people that they leave and cost SE more money than granting lightspeed would gain, it would probably be a good idea to then do it. " so don't just read whatever you think you read and present the same argument in a different spin. I asked for something that to me (and a lot of other people) would be a great thing for SE to implement. NO ONE ever said that they HAVE to do anything.
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  8. #38
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    The end of your post implied to me that you were saying that they had to do it, with all the stuff about paying money, the constitutional amendments, and fundamental rights. I still think that's what you meant, but maybe it was just bad phrasing.

    My argument was looking at it from a cost-benefit analysis. To be honest, though, I highly doubt it will have much of an impact on costs anyway. Most people probably won't quit or join the game either way.
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  9. #39
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Ahaha, no. No.
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  10. #40
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    Lilli Karani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, no. You can handle every floor without a dedicated healer just fine.
    Did you ever were in the higher floors? (EDIT: Found the answer: no)

    Till 180 its quite easy. But with 181 and up even the trash mobs start to hit harder than the bosses in A9S-A11S.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 01-10-2017 at 09:30 PM.

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