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  1. #1
    Player
    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    This is my pet peeve as a healer. Nothing worse than the Black Mage who thinks that their best way to do DPS is by standing as far away as possible from the group.
    As the blm in my static, I get this from time to time with our healers XD... it's not so much about being far away, as I want to be stood on my own. obv I do everything possible to keep movement to an absolute minimum, and I don't want to have to move because someone else has dropped an aoe on me. obv it depends on the fight, and if such mechs exist. sweet spot is to be stood alone but obv still in group heal range... if not, they ask me to get a bit closer and i'll move a few steps in on my next proc or whatever. sometimes think they think I am just being difficult for the sake of it tho hehe

    just takes some cooperation tho, like in a12 I let them know that right after boss lb im moving out early to preposition for defamation so they can get a regen on me for stasis, and I have my own shields as well
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Maybe they'll have a hide move where you use a melee dps as cover, trolling with that could be fun
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    As long as you are dodging AoEs and staying Flank and Rear for melee it isn't an issue. It's why mob placement comes with the Tank Role and is important.

    Judging by the RDM video, it seems like a simple straight line mechanic for movement anyway. I don't even see positionals happening as it already has a melee/ranged mechanic.

    As stated, historically RDM has had higher defense than other casters and wearing light to medium armors in previous titles.

    Can only wait and see.
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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Malcolm Varanidae
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    its prob not going to be at melee range at all most likely jumping back and forth creates all kinds of animation lock not to mention gcd clipping. Melee attacks are probably going in the form of sword beam attacks from range.
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    its prob not going to be at melee range at all most likely jumping back and forth creates all kinds of animation lock not to mention gcd clipping. Melee attacks are probably going in the form of sword beam attacks from range.
    Considering the trailer show-cased a lunge in, rapid thrusting melee with rapier and then a jump back, there is going to be at least one instance of hokey-pokey-ing with the class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFg-lEuHRMI
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Marilith
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Considering the trailer show-cased a lunge in, rapid thrusting melee with rapier and then a jump back, there is going to be at least one instance of hokey-pokey-ing with the class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFg-lEuHRMI
    I'm aware but I'm also aware that things change in development as well. Sure it could be there but it could also be a skill you wont ever use in your rotation.
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    KaplanHomahru's Avatar
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    Kaplan Homahru
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    I'm aware but I'm also aware that things change in development as well. Sure it could be there but it could also be a skill you wont ever use in your rotation.
    Considering it is "a hybrid ranged/melee style achieved via high-speed positioning", I think you're very wrong
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    I'm aware but I'm also aware that things change in development as well. Sure it could be there but it could also be a skill you wont ever use in your rotation.
    With Stormblood being only 6 or 7 months away, I highly doubt they would change a fundamental play style so late. By this time, they would be tweaking minor things and ironing out bugs. It would also make no sense to show old content if that wouldn't be how Red Mage would ultimately function, or no longer have the skillset they showcased; a trailer is generally a tool to showcase what you will be getting.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 01-04-2017 at 04:04 AM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    I'm aware but I'm also aware that things change in development as well. Sure it could be there but it could also be a skill you wont ever use in your rotation.
    I am reminded of DRKs Darkside and MCHs other animations that did not make it once Heavensward was released. I guess we'll find out more in a few months
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    Last edited by myahele; 01-04-2017 at 04:09 AM.

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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    I'm aware but I'm also aware that things change in development as well. Sure it could be there but it could also be a skill you wont ever use in your rotation.
    ehhhhhh nah, its going to do some up close & personal melee fighting as well as ranged magic attacks, and its going to be prominent mix of both in the rotations. its the staple of the job. Why even give the job a sword of any type if it won't be using it like a sword. And they wont showcase the skills in the very first thing we see of RDM if it wasn't important skills to the job. That would be almost false advertising, and i see no reason for them to do that.
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