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  1. #41
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    mosaicex's Avatar
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    Noyoyo Noyo
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    Typhon
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Just a byproduct of 'expert' dungeons continuously amounting to nothing more other than 3-4 trashes pack and then bosses, repeated ad nauseum.
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  2. #42
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    Celef's Avatar
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Or maybe I'm casting protect. It gets super annoying when a tank runs off, and then I have to cast it again.
    Personnaly I don't care, "You don't want my Protect, fine, your problem not mine" ^^"
    Trust me, it makes things easier to just....


    (Sorry, had it in my mind from the moment i woke up, best cure is to pass it to someone else )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  3. #43
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolys View Post
    From what I read on the forum, it seems healer now spent more time in Cleric stance than not and I even hear people saying some Tank can survive without heals in some dungeons. So that has clearly changed because before I quitted I don't know any dungeon where the tank could pull stuff and survive without any kind of healer.
    It's true the dungeons are now easier than they were in 2.0, but even back then healers were expected to be DPSing as much as they are now. I remember I was expected to Holy in Brayflox, which you used as an example, and use Benediction to heal the tank as planned between the Holys (and Scholars were able to Lustrate in Cleric Stance in 2.0). It's in no way a new thing, these days it's just much easier for healers to DPS.
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  4. #44
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    Riardon's Avatar
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Because dungeons are nerfed down to stupidity mode. Looks at "Expert" roulette we have now. 1st day on 1st try huge pulls and mobs died in few secs. They have too low HP. This kind of easiness is boring. Dungeons used to be fun and challenging back in 2.X series. Now they are made for toddlers. I remember we wanted to get the new shiny tomestone gear to run the new dungeons more efficiently. Now we want the new tomestone gear for the skin and looks.
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  5. #45
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    It's true the dungeons are now easier than they were in 2.0, but even back then healers were expected to be DPSing as much as they are now. I remember I was expected to Holy in Brayflox, which you used as an example, and use Benediction to heal the tank as planned between the Holys (and Scholars were able to Lustrate in Cleric Stance in 2.0). It's in no way a new thing, these days it's just much easier for healers to DPS.
    Oh I did use benediction often but I did not really have the opportunity to plan for when. So maybe you have luck with being random matched with excellent tanks, but most of my runs as soon as tank had finished gathering the giant group of monsters, it would take almost less time to his HP to reach zero than the animation time of Holy xD.
    Basically most of the times when the tanks stopped running and starting getting hit, If I had not both Divine Seal + Presence of Mind on me, Regen on the tank and me spamming Cure I and Cure II (sometimes even just cure II because cure I would not cut it) then the tanks would be dead. Any distraction from me for a second or two, and they would be dead. And to make it even more fun, sometimes I had to use Medicas because of DPS somehow getting dangerously low, or to get more regen power).

    But that's how I like healer class, I want healing to be a fight in itself. For me if I have enough time to do DPS, that means something is wrong and the monsters do not hit hard/debuff enough. Said otherwise, DPS have DPS check, I want healer to have Heal Check where no time can be afforded to go DPSing.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 01-03-2017 at 08:23 PM.

  6. #46
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I dunno man, these last few dungeons are just so ridiculously easy healing wise that I actually feel offended if a tank pulls small or ASKS before a pull...

    Only all the pulls are enough pulls :> These dungeons are boring enough without tanks being unnecessarily cautious
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  7. #47
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    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    So basically, every fight is like a primal that takes a while to beat. Yeah no.
    More like

    Trash that requires the party to stun / silence a few of them or else they'll get decimated.
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  8. #48
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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Rama Kagon
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    The Vault says hi.
    Aurum Vale returns the greet.

    PS: those 3 dungeons are endgame ones, not levelling ones. Because then AV takes the cake for the hardest levelling dungeon ever. Vault is far easier in comparison.

    PPS: Yes I was late at the reply.
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  9. #49
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    It's funny to read people talking about Aurum Vale being a hard leveling dungeon. I never considered it a hard dungeon. Back in 2.0 for me the hard dungeon would be AK and its damn bees at the wall, or WP at the last boss. (I'm talking about the first times doing them and not after you get used to them)
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  10. #50
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Aurum Vale returns the greet.

    PS: those 3 dungeons are endgame ones, not levelling ones. Because then AV takes the cake for the hardest levelling dungeon ever. Vault is far easier in comparison.

    PPS: Yes I was late at the reply.
    Except when you're a brand-new healer and, suddenly, someone whispers in your ear "sickness must be purged".
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