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  1. #21
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    Erim-Nelhah's Avatar
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    Erim Nelhah
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Extreme dungeons (with hard-hitting trash and boss mechanics that matter) anyone?

    --Erim Nelhah
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    Member of The Cimmerian Aurora <TCA>, Gilgamesh
    Level 80 DNC Main
    Dancer is a physical hybrid melee/range class, not a true ranged class. I love it.

  2. #22
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    What dungeon are you doing that requires a swiftcast for raise 1 minute after the start? If it is that soon they are better off returning to the entrance without weakness lol
    Does it matter? Sometimes people make mistakes, and they die. I feel like it's important to always stay ready.
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  4. #23
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Erim-Nelhah View Post
    Extreme dungeons (with hard-hitting trash and boss mechanics that matter) anyone?

    --Erim Nelhah
    So basically, every fight is like a primal that takes a while to beat. Yeah no.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind if the trash was reduced and we had an extra boss. Reduce the time spent designing irrelevant mobs and give us something extra to keep us awake.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Does it matter? Sometimes people make mistakes, and they die. I feel like it's important to always stay ready.
    It does. <.<

    Because if no one is dying in the first minute you can just use that protect. And quite honestly I'm not sure what tanks you are getting that run off so fast that they aren't getting a cast as fast as Protect. Stoneskin II I can see that.

    Also, to die in the first minute of a dungeon.. You have to:

    A: Not be able to heal the tank during a pull so he/she dies.
    B: You try to die on purpose. Which will take effort.
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  7. #26
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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Leon Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    I wouldn't mind if the trash was reduced and we had an extra boss. Reduce the time spent designing irrelevant mobs and give us something extra to keep us awake.
    Or just a lot more trials and a lot less dungeons to complete. Dungeons make me sleepy anyways.. I enjoy them sometimes but in most its hard to hold my eye lids up.
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  8. #27
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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Leon Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    It does. <.<

    Because if no one is dying in the first minute you can just use that protect. And quite honestly I'm not sure what tanks you are getting that run off so fast that they aren't getting a cast as fast as Protect. Stoneskin II I can see that.

    Also, to die in the first minute of a dungeon.. You have to:

    A: Not be able to heal the tank during a pull so he/she dies.
    B: You try to die on purpose. Which will take effort.
    Dont forget the occasional ninja that wants to pull the entire first room and bring it to the tank.
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  9. #28
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I'm not going to waste my swiftcast on a spell that doesn't take very long to cast. It should be saved for raises, in the event that a party member dies.
    Dude as SCH I even use swiftcast everytime I use longtime skill like Shadow Flare, Summon Pet (If died or change pet), or even Adloquium when tank running.

    Also... died at first minute? >_>
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  10. #29
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    Klamor's Avatar
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    Klamor Oli
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Another one of these posts, by this guy? Nothing to see here, folks. Bad healer is bad.
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  11. #30
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    This used to be a thing, but now I don't see it anymore. How come?
    How come? Maybe because some level/gear capped players assumes wrongly that every other players is the same at them, while there is new, returning and unexperienced (from a dungeon perspective or from doing big pulls) and minimum geared players in the Duty Roulette.

    When I returned to the game a bit more than 2 months ago from a more than 2 years break, I started catching back on completing 2 relics (the final ARR part) for my SMN and WHM and so I had to do the usual lv 4X~50 dungeons for it, and I did meet clearly higher level players who fell with me in the Duty Roulette. Once they asked if big pulls was OK. Another time the tank started with a moderate group to see how the team was reacting and then he went for big pull once he felt the group was up for it.
    I did meet one tank in Aurum Vale who did not ask and started to pull big. It did not end well

    I guess it just depends on your luck if you end up with people with a minimum social interest for the party, or just players who just want to get rid of the dungeon as fast as possible.

    When I reached Heavensward duties, I did not have bad experience either as SMN or WHM but I have not done enough Heavensward duties to have a big picture of the current state of it. I've decided to take my time instead and play alt classes and stuff, and will start doing more duties when I have nothing else to do.
    I'm just kind of sad from all what I read on the forum about the current healing meta because it seems it has taken a more important turn toward DPSing. While I remember before I quitted than when doing big pulls, or with some bosses (who, I clearly noticed, have been nerfed since) the tank always flirted with death and there was no time at all for dps to the exception of special encounters where some well placed Holy could do wonder.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 01-03-2017 at 03:23 PM.

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