Dev Request for 4.0: Get rid of cast bars on phy range

[AzraelX]

I know you guys want balance but at the same time you want jobs to feel unique. Nothing is unique to changing 1-50 physical ranger dps to caster support classes. Jobs should not completely change to different job once it reaches 60. Yoshi mentioned that changes are coming to BARD – I hope that includes removal of cast bars for both them and MCH.
For WM why not have removal of cast bars and 15% damage increase – “ Bard’s minuet’s increases its vigor and fortitude.”
For GB- remove cast bar and 15% damage increase – “Attachment increases damage output.” And in 4.0 add another attachment so MCH is attachment dancing.

[Sarynth]

What I don't understand is that bard songs normally buff the party, so why is minuet different from ballad paeon or requiem in how it works? With mch I can understand the guass barrel making shots "charge" so to speak, but at this point it's more of a wait and see what stormblood brings.

[Colino]

I hope that now that they've added another caster they have fulfilled that quota and will let at least BRD roam free again. I did eventually get used to it and manage but I just don't like the bowmage.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I can accept the cast times on the attacks, but I think for PvE at least they should allow BRD and MCH to move while casting...

[SilkaN]

I hope that now that they've added another caster they have fulfilled that quota and will let at least BRD roam free again. I did eventually get used to it and manage but I just don't like the bowmage.

I don't know about you, but I have enough time between my attacks to move around as a Bard.
Do you even need to run around permanently?

Wanderer's Minuet is something I enjoy, it makes your attacks feel more impactful and you are still more mobile than a BLM.

Keep WM.

[Mikaeus_The_Lunarch]

i still don't quite get why people don't like WM/GB. even before i got my GB i wasn't running crazy while DPS'ing. granted i don't really know if bards get as many oGCD moves as MCH or if their combo becomes insta-casts like MCH with ammo.

[Reinha]

Minuet should've been a song with a cast time that drains MP and buffs the bard until MP is drained or the song is canceled. Like Foe, but for self. It would've been 100% in line with the established play style, wouldn't have gotten in the way of using oGCD and also would've given some new choices to make in the midst of combat. Am I going to be supporting the party any time soon? Will Foe increase party dps more than Minuet? Will this fight last long enough to justify the cast time? And if they wanted to enforce standing still, they could have made the song drain double MP when on the move.

MCH could stay the way it is in my opinion. Its other mechanics allow instant casts while keeping the buff, and I would prefer the job being different from bard if bard is given back its original game play.

[Nestama]

Minuet should've been a song with a cast time that drains MP and buffs the bard until MP is drained or the song is canceled.

That would just widen the gap between MCH and BRD and not in a good way, especially when it comes to raids. MCH would become even more favourable because GB would always be better than WM (making MCH the strongest ranged support DPS).

Because WM buffs the BRD's overall damage, that will imply WM drains MP as fast as Foe's does. Given that MP takes awhile to fully regenerate during combat, that's roughly a few minutes of not being able to use Empyreal Arrow and Sidewinder.

[AzraelX]

i still don't quite get why people don't like WM/GB. even before i got my GB i wasn't running crazy while DPS'ing. granted i don't really know if bards get as many oGCD moves as MCH or if their combo becomes insta-casts like MCH with ammo.

It dramatically changes both classes to a something else

[AzraelX]

I don't know about you, but I have enough time between my attacks to move around as a Bard.
Do you even need to run around permanently?

Wanderer's Minuet is something I enjoy, it makes your attacks feel more impactful and you are still more mobile than a BLM.

Keep WM.

Then just put gb and wm in level 1-50. It's like the black mage at level 60 has to be in Melee range to get most damage and use new skills