Suggestion Umbrite

[Derio]

If they nerf the 240 grind then the next step after 260 needs to be long. The 260 was not even a grind really, and only lasted 2-3 weeks for casual players. With the 260 step you didnt even have to play for more than 1 hour a day to get it done in under 2 weeks. And the entire point of the relic quest is to give you something to do while playing the game.

[TiaHariberux3]

Just no since the step after it can be completed in 1day nerf will most likely happen after the next long step gets released.

[Hakuro89]

Just no since the step after it can be completed in 1day nerf will most likely happen after the next long step gets released.

If you can grind 24,000 tomes in one day, I'd love to see it.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

If you can grind 24,000 tomes in one day, I'd love to see it.

They're talking about the singing crystal step.

[TaleraRistain]

I think my problem with this step is that the previous steps felt much more active. This step feels like a treadmill. I'm okay with it taking a lot of time. Just make the journey more entertaining. This step just drags on and on and on.

[Rinuko]

How about lower them to 150 like the item you need for 260

[Brian_]

Assuming you do some basic weekly activities like clearing WA and farming out tokens pieces from Alex NM.

That's 100+20+20+20+20 = 180 lore per week.

And three leveling roulettes for the singing cluster weekly quest = 100x3 = 300 lore per week.

~70 umbrite = ~21000 lore
480 weekly lore from Alex NM / WA / Leveling roulette over 5 weeks = 2400 lore
21000-2400 = 18600/35 = 531 per day

Trial roulette -- 60 lore -- around 10 minutes for completion
EX-roulette -- 140 lore -- around 14-20 minutes for completion
60-roulette -- 100+X lore -- around 14-20 minutes for completion
Front-line roulette -- 100 lore -- around 14-20 minutes for completion (queue time can be spent doing other daily tasks)
Vanu Beast-tribe -- 45 lore -- around 10 minutes for completion and can be done while in queue
Mentor roulette -- 30+X lore -- can bait a guildhest, trial, or dungeon with lore reward, <5-20 minutes for completion
Daily treasure map -- 0-30 lore

And you'll surely get some bonus lore from random hunts, newbie bonus, and Wondrous Tails.

That totals to at most 1.5 hours per day for 475~505 lore + X from dungeon rewards. If you run as a tank or healer, all those queues aside from PvP are instant. On my data-center, PvP queue during prime time is also <5 minutes.

If <1.5 hours per day feels like a grind to you... well... I don't know what to say. The relic probably isn't for you.

[Seyb]

big fat grind

Thank you. That's exactly what I call a big, fat, ugly and very uninteresting grind.

Your estimate of less than 1.5 hours for all these activitites a day is also way off. Not to mention that you can't collect the singing clusters through the weekly quest when you're not on the ilvl 260 quest.
And don't forget collecting all the atmas for the first step within those five weeks.
And don't forget the 10 dungeons that you have to do within those five weeks.
And don't forget collecting the items for the third anima step within those five weeks.
And don't forget the weekly Crystal Tower quest that you have to do within those five weeks.

[Yudzster]

Thank you. That's exactly what I call a big, fat, ugly and very uninteresting grind.

Your estimate of less than 1.5 hours for all these activitites a day is also way off. Not to mention that you can't collect the singing clusters through the weekly quest when you're not on the ilvl 260 quest.
And don't forget collecting all the atmas for the first step within those five weeks.
And don't forget the 10 dungeons that you have to do within those five weeks.
And don't forget collecting the items for the third anima step within those five weeks.
And don't forget the weekly Crystal Tower quest that you have to do within those five weeks.

yeha then its not for you, use other alternatives

[Seyb]

yeha then its not for you, use other alternatives

Not an argument. Don't claim it's "not a real grind" when the majority in this thread want an improvement to this step because it's an awful grind.

It's one thing to grind a step that is relevant and a much different thing to grind it when it's no longer relevant.