Suggestion Umbrite

[Train88]

TLDR: I would like to propose that Umbrite be moved from 300 to 200 tomes.

Currently, Umbrite is used for the 240 stage of the relic. You use 1 lump of Umbrite and one unit of crystal sands. The Umbrite can only be obtained with tomes and the sands can be obtained via many ways which do not bottleneck the process. You need a total of 240 processed units. One sand and one Umbrite provide 3 units. 80 Umbrites will be required total. One day's worth of roulette gets me 2 Umbrite. A hardcore grind would last a minimum of 40 days which is comparable to the 7 weekly a12 gears for the 260 shire weapon. It is possible to get more tomes but past this point it is no longer a game.

It made sense for the 240 weapon to take 1-2 month worth of work when it was the top weapon to get but now it's a bump in the road. From what I understand the next stages do not take nearly as long. I do not see a rational reason for this lesser level weapon to be required to last longer when it is possible to just loosen the bottleneck. Right now Umbrite costs 300 tomes. If the price was moved to 200, the process would last an estimated 27 days from 40 as a daily worth of roulette gets me about 600. I feel this is a much more reasonable amount of effort for a weapon people would most likely not use at all.

[Khalithar]

How about just upping the points given so instead of 3 it's guaranteed to be 5 or 6?

[Rufalus]

Judging by how much previous steps were reduced, I won't be surprised if a bigger nerf than that is already coming, and it's needed because the cost/reward of this step is really off.

[Train88]

That's another way to do it but by lowering the Umbrite cost, the other mat cost would remain and become more important in the process. Also it would be very simple from the coding point of view to change a simple constant.

[DamianFatale]

27 days for an irrelevant weapon? How about a week tops.

[Train88]

Relic is not only a weapon. It's also something to do.

Relic takes a long time to make for the same reason there is a weekly time gate on the latest content: without the cap, hardcore players would burn the new content in a week tops and have nothing to do until the next patch.

However, from experience, people just give up on the 240 relic.

It effectively takes more than 40 days to make because between the weeklies, the roulettes and having a little bit of fun, one runs out of time. I have 3 characters decked in 250 gear. Slowly making another 60 to gear it too. I'm starting to run out of content as savage does not interest me. The meta in there is toxic and a little too elitist for me. So I just rolled an alt on Jenova. I had more fun with my small conjurer in three days than I had in the last 3 months. I literally had everything to do, it just didn't stop.

[AlphaFox]

Honestly I see them either dropping the price of Lore (perhaps to 150 to meet with Singing cluster) or boosting the effect it has when added from +3 to more. I've done two relics so far and the umbrite is certainly the major wall, the Aether Oil and the Clusters are simple and don't mind those at all.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I can't say I've noticed this step lasting all that long, TBH. I started this step on my pld relic two weeks ago and I've already gotten to 180 points with absolutely no excessive grinding at all. All I've been doing is farming PotD for enhancements to upgrade the weapon for a few of my lesser used alts and using the incidental lore, Poetics, Gil, and materials I get from there to fuel my relic. Not sure how it'd take over a month when I'm 2/3 done in two weeks.

[Train88]

Well I calculated grinding POTD like that 110% hardcore possibility. I based my numbers on my experience and a steady pace, daily effort.

The purpose of a relic is once again to have something to do endgame. While it is possible to muscle through it, it defeats the point.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Well I calculated grinding POTD like that 110% hardcore possibility. I based my numbers on my experience and a steady pace, daily effort.

I'm not doing a hardcore grind, though. XD I only play for like 3 hours a day.