Regarding Full Party Premades in Frontline and Patch 3.5

[Chronons]

Complaining about about premades only discourages team play and increases que times. Both of which are bad for PVP.

These people have just recognized the same thing as many other posters in this thread have, namely PUGs suck at co-ordination, and found a way to address it. If your pursuit of "fairness" is taken to its logical conclusion we all lose out. You want premades to be separate from solo ques because they have an unfair advantage in terms of coordination. Is that not also true regarding PUG teams that do coordinate well? Its totally unfair that you got randomly thrown on the team of knuckle dragging, chat ignoring, battle high feeders as opposed to the enemy team who is listening to one another and working together. Lets remove the chat in FL so we are all on an equal playing field in terms of co-ordination. OR we can just deal with the fact that premades exist and do our best to lead our teams to victory in spite of them.

If that team from "whichever is relevant to your data center" server is on again tonight kicking everyone's butt: don't que, use it as a chance to grow, or beat them. While it may not be fun losing a bunch, punishing people for playing PVP the way it is meant to be played (via coordination and teamwork) is not an appropriate solution.

[Awful]

I tried PvPing when Seal Rock was a thing (I was Adders) we won some matches but yeah when we did win those matches that were premades it was amazing. I remember getting battle high with my buddies and defending our nodes while Cometoring everyone, as it was back when Smn was super strong I was pumping out 10+ kills a match. Now that we have Freelancer as an option i'm so thankful for PvP as my interests in MMOs nowadays are raiding/PvPing it was only today that I fought my first premade team but they didn't win, we almost won the last match but we were short 80 points. I've been PvPing a ton this week so far about 40 matches and i've won over 20 so far, so what i'm saying is even with the odd premades, which to this day today was my first one you can still win matches it's not impossible.

I understand the fun of a premade it is fun, but when you're on the other end of the spectrum is does suck and get old pretty quick if I have to fight premades all day everyday though it'll get old. I honestly want to get into ranked PvP at some point since raiding has lost its lustre till SB launches but getting my friends into a premade I get maybe 2-3 people to que with me who I can secure kills with. But when i'm solo it's hard to communicate with people to kill targets or battle high people hell most people think that getting the base back ASAP is the way to play when it's not.