SE: Remove undersized ability for WT

[Lexia]

Good luck finding a party that can beat titan ex in synced mode or few others of the primals.

[Ilan]

It's supposed to be used as a tool to make old content relevant again to help new players and queue times. When I can 3 man all the level 50 trials and solo leveling and 50 dungeons this defeats that purpose.

Most of the time are enough PF groups for the kills open and if you could only do the stuff synced, no new player would get this stuff done because no one would bother with WT or just go with 7 friends. I wouldn't even do WT anymore if i had to do the primals sync because i already did that before HW came out...

[Zojha]

I can see that argument for the dungeons, because unlike EX trials, people would still actually "do" them synced, since they aren't overly difficult or time consuming. But the primals would likely die out if they had to be done synced - people tend to be fairly averse to that kind of thing.

[Vaer]

People would just use retry points on the top row which would make it even more boring than it already is.

[Emerald_Swords]

Perhaps if unsyched parties would not drop rewards, it would make it more enticing for players to go into df to do their runs.

But nah, doing any ex primal in df is torture if you just want to get in and out. Not everyone has 90+ minutes to waste because people don't know how to dodge aoe's.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Removing unsynced would just make it worse, no one want's to do 2.X primals synced again especially since i can't see myself functioning without Iron jaws.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I initially though the same, but like others have already said. This wouldn't help new players. People would simply make parties with friends or as someone else pointed out, spam retry on the particularly annoying primals. If newer players did join a PF group. Expect to see them kicked quickly if they can't handle the fights.

[ReplicaX]

Perhaps if unsyched parties would not drop rewards, it would make it more enticing for players to go into df to do their runs.

No thanks, I'm still missing a few ponies due to RNG and crap rolls having completed EXs and farmed them when they first released. I know I am not the only one.

[Vidu]

Perhaps if unsyched parties would not drop rewards, it would make it more enticing for players to go into df to do their runs.

Why not let everyone play the game like they're enjoying it (as long as that isnt "harming" anyone else and doesnt mean they're playing like sh*t in normal duties)?

I've done all the ARR primals when they were current, farmed the ponies when they were current, most of the time with friends and NOT through DF and we would do it this way again.
I've been into DF for the easy ARR primals like Garuda und Shiva a while ago again - not a chance. I know the fights quite well, but a lot of people simply dont even know how to stack. I'm all for helping new people and I'm often up for that, but sometimes I'm gonna be so selfish to put my progress infront of theres and the game has given me the tools for that - dont take them away, please. For me doing primals with just 2-3 other friends is a lot of fun and in the game the game should be about fun. Without the unsych feature we wouldnt be running those old EX-primals as often again.

(and again: it wouldnt help new players who are just quening in through DF because they want a quick kill, sorry its just not how it works. We would just be back to looking for groups of 8 again to do this content, because after all this trials arent designed with a more or fixed group thats well coordianted in mind - well, either that or highly skilled people that can do without to much communication)

[Ilan]

Perhaps if unsyched parties would not drop rewards, it would make it more enticing for players to go into df to do their runs.

But nah, doing any ex primal in df is torture if you just want to get in and out. Not everyone has 90+ minutes to waste because people don't know how to dodge aoe's.

I'm fine with that as long as i can do my WT stuff unsync but i can tell you that it wouldn't change a thing because people would still create farm partys without bonus and new players wouldn't get it done either way.