Thread: Dev Request for 4.0: Get rid of cast bars on phy range

I know you guys want balance but at the same time you want jobs to feel unique. Nothing is unique to changing 1-50 physical ranger dps to caster support classes. Jobs should not completely change to different job once it reaches 60. Yoshi mentioned that changes are coming to BARD – I hope that includes removal of cast bars for both them and MCH.
For WM why not have removal of cast bars and 15% damage increase – “ Bard’s minuet’s increases its vigor and fortitude.”
For GB- remove cast bar and 15% damage increase – “Attachment increases damage output.” And in 4.0 add another attachment so MCH is attachment dancing.

What I don't understand is that bard songs normally buff the party, so why is minuet different from ballad paeon or requiem in how it works? With mch I can understand the guass barrel making shots "charge" so to speak, but at this point it's more of a wait and see what stormblood brings.

I hope that now that they've added another caster they have fulfilled that quota and will let at least BRD roam free again. I did eventually get used to it and manage but I just don't like the bowmage.

Originally Posted by Colino

I hope that now that they've added another caster they have fulfilled that quota and will let at least BRD roam free again. I did eventually get used to it and manage but I just don't like the bowmage.

I don't know about you, but I have enough time between my attacks to move around as a Bard.
Do you even need to run around permanently?

Wanderer's Minuet is something I enjoy, it makes your attacks feel more impactful and you are still more mobile than a BLM.

Keep WM.

Originally Posted by SilkaN

I don't know about you, but I have enough time between my attacks to move around as a Bard.
Do you even need to run around permanently?

Wanderer's Minuet is something I enjoy, it makes your attacks feel more impactful and you are still more mobile than a BLM.

Keep WM.

Then just put gb and wm in level 1-50. It's like the black mage at level 60 has to be in Melee range to get most damage and use new skills

Originally Posted by SilkaN

Do you even need to run around permanently?

Do you even need to play a video game? The answer is no. So why are you here? For the lulz, right? Same reason people would like to be able to move while attacking.

Is it really so hard to comprehend for people?

Originally Posted by Ilan

Then turn WM off and you have your lulz back and your party has lulz too after they kicked you because you didn't do dmg.

Thus providing a very convincing reason why there should be a physical DPS without cast bars.

I would argue further, but you're not worth the letters. Have fun!

Originally Posted by Ilan

Then turn WM off and you have your lulz back and your party has lulz too after they kicked you because you didn't do dmg. But at least you jumped around like a flee.

We just love hyperbole. Non-WM bards do not necessarily want to "jump around like flees". Outside of savage content, Non-WM bards do not typically get kicked from parties, and even when they do, it is not for lack of damage from not using WM. It is either because they do poor damage regardless (found with players of any job), or because somebody erroneously thinks that non-WM means "no damage" and kicks on ill-informed principle. You have just as much reason to kick players for not using food or pots in non-savage content.

You may be curious to find that your bursty Emp Arrow numbers over a dungeon run will be replaced by similar numbers from sustained autoattack if you try with and without WM.

I can accept the cast times on the attacks, but I think for PvE at least they should allow BRD and MCH to move while casting...