Thread: Dev Request for 4.0: Get rid of cast bars on phy range

Originally Posted by alimdia

Good bards know how to move without losing autos, so those weren't good bards.

Did you even lose autos while moving with 2.x BRD? Or was that only if you moved while facing away from your target?

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

It's terrible, but I also wish BRD wouldn't lose as much DPS for movement as it currently does in WM. At least MCH get procs that allows for movement, whilst BRD gets no such breaks. While they don't need to move all the time, you're essentially stuck in place like a BLM without the barriers BLM can at least put up. Or an instant teleport/slide (sans being close to a target and getting repelling shot).

Oh please, don't even compare. We may have shields and super slide, but our cast times are longer than a BRD's and we can't exactly click on Firestarter and Thundercloud procs if our Enochian is running low on CD juice (so our instant casts can actually cause a DPS loss), whereas you can use proc'd Straight Shot and Bloodletter (multiple times if lucky).

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

While they don't need to move all the time, you're essentially stuck in place like a BLM

hmm I think you need to retry blm again because this is just incorrect.

Or maybe the 1 second cast time for WM (stutter step) is the same as 4s for flare

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I'd much more prefer to be able to move and cast, or, better yet, casting bars turning into damage output modifiers with no charge being your standard potency amount (x1) and a full charge being bonus damage (like x1.5 or x2- probably not as high, but setting it for an example).

They should make it so you can move while casting, but WM puts a buff on you that is only up when you're standing still.

As someone who has just experienced the gamechanger of WM... I'm not particularly happy about having one style luring me in on this alt for over half the game only to have the rug pulled out from under my feet.

Nothing wrong with WM, the cast times are barely noticeable.

I prefer WM play. I wish it was acquired more smoothly, in multiple trait steps starting in Archer itself, and that stance-dancing was less punishing (15s locked into WM, or GB for that matter, is simply too long), but overall it feels more entertaining than Bard did for me when I mained it through ARR. Not hugely, but an improvement nonetheless.

Also, Det and SS balancing when?

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Also, Det and SS balancing when?

Useless non-stats like Determination (and auto-attacks, for that matter) should be removed outright, but that's a different discussion topic entirely.

Originally Posted by GMERC

Useless non-stats like Determination (and auto-attacks, for that matter) should be removed outright, but that's a different discussion topic entirely.

I just want all three to have an equal effect on AAs and at least a near-equal effect on oGCDs, so that stance-dancing doesn't basically go extinct past a certain SS value. For every physical class, Crit outweighs the others by far more than its RNG could ever warrant. Why, at an optimal rotational plateau, should Det and SS be so outpaced by Crit on anyone but a Bard? And why should their values be so changed by what stance you're in?

To be honest, though, we could also just remove Determination, and no one would be the wiser, as unlike Crit, which can still be felt in gameplay by all of three jobs, the value of Determination is in the numbers over time only.

I wish SSpeed increased TP/MP native regen.

Crits damage ceiling could have been tied to DET opposed to more Crit, making a balance of the two more important than just Crit > Det.

I wish WM felt more like a song and less like a stance though. Remaining stationary is a fine mechanic for it, but like if the animation and sound effect was a head-banging power chord on the harp which is spammed like meditation or dark arts. swoooon