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  1. #461
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post

    Why do you feel the need to be able to glamour a job-iconic set (like the WHM AF gear), onto the gear of a job that's completely unrelated to WHM?
    Because it looks pretty nice ? ^^"
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Talking about an argument that needs to stand on better legs; assuming that an NPC is a particular job (this alone should be a red flag) because "he rages out". Not even gonna try and explain how magnificent of a roller coaster this idea is.

    And another concept that seems to fly over your head as well as many others is that gameplay isn't so simple as you want to put it. Gameplay encompasses all aspects of a game that create an experience as a whole. This includes visual elements. Certain aesthetics can appear jarring to players and disrupt a sense of world or immersion that the rest of the game works to establish. Disrupting that sense of immersion is disrupting an element of the gameplay. If you cannot hold a very strong suspension of disbelief, seeing someone running around like they're attending a rave or night party, or seeing a chosen warrior tank a behemoth in a maid's outfit, then they would find themselves finding it hard to appreciate the game at its full value. I'm a bit of a prude and would prefer not to see such overly garish outfits, but y'all flex your creative muscles where the game lets you. That said, a line needs to be drawn and at the very least needs to be drawn to the very sets that define the aesthetic and nature of a job. The very sets that make a player feel like that job. Allowing other jobs to glamour those sets would make it feel disingenuous and take away a very specific feeling of playing that job.

    Besides even that, there is an ever expanding library of equipment at a player's disposal for glamour purposes, and often will you see generic gear that was once tied to one job now recycled for another. I would even side for allowing generic gear for any job to be unrestricted without need of recycled sets. There shouldn't be some need to justify why there should be one set of gear per expansion being specific to a job to provide a sense of iconic imagery. You can have your huge pile of junk to mix and match, but leave that one thing alone for those few, that's all that should be to it.
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    Last edited by Lewtskie; 01-12-2017 at 07:36 PM.

  3. #463
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I have no idea where you got the idea that Raubahn is a WAR, he's always been stated as a GLA in both lore/backstory and gameplay (he owns the GLA Guild for one). And we've already been over why WAR will not get a sword glamour or classes/Jobs will not be able to equip another weapon type, as it completely violates the very backbone of the class system used in this game, the Armoury System, where your weapon is your class and thus identifies it.
    I get that you want to play as a FFXII Archadian Judge, that's fine, you just have to understand that FFXIV's class system locks each weapon type to a class and there is no crossover and simply does not allow you to use one class's weapon on another class. And that goes for glamour as well for the reasons I've already mentioned. I'm not trying to attack you here and if it seems that way, I am sorry, but your comment about Raubahn needed correcting, as he is a GLA and has always been one.
    Not trying to nitpick or anything, but the lorebooks states Raubahn is adept in "Ancient Ala Mhigan Bladedancing" and he did use two swords. And fire magic. If anything he is an unannounced or unobtainable job. But a warrior he is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Because it looks pretty nice ? ^^"
    Nothing's stopping you from playing WHM and wearing the AF robe, or just idling in it if you don't feel like doing content as WHM at that point.

    For other jobs, there's plenty of other pretty looking robes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    But if you want to argue that it shouldn't be allowed, using a true argument would stand on better legs than disrupting gameplay.

    Now, I do want to transmog swords as a warrior. And I finally have my case. Raubahn is a warrior and he dualwielded two swords. There's no class in the game but warrior who rages out. His nickname is even a beast's name.

    Give warriors sword transmogs.
    It's one thing if you don't care about the story or lore in this game. It is another to make an uneducated statement regarding lore to use as counter argument. Then call the opposition's arguments not "true". Especially when their statements are backed by the lore of this game, and the Developer's creative decisions with the armory system.

    Best just to stick with what you actually know. Raubahn is not a WAR per Lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    Give warriors sword transmogs.
    Given how the game works with animations, it would look HORRIBLE. Trust me, even if they did do this just to humour you, you would be swinging a sword like you would an axe, and it'd look beyond dumb.

    Or alternatively, just play DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    It's one thing if you don't care about the story or lore in this game. It is another to make an uneducated statement regarding lore to use as counter argument. Then call the opposition's arguments not "true". Especially when their statements are backed by the lore of this game, and the Developer's creative decisions with the armory system.

    Best just to stick with what you actually know. Raubahn is not a WAR per Lore.
    What.

    I didn't say the other guys were lying. I said the guy who said "other people transmogging things disrupts gameplay" was wrong.

    Raubahn gives into his inner beast. I just watched the movie a couple hours ago.

    Dude's a warrior.
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    I am the Fist of Retribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    What.

    I didn't say the other guys were lying. I said the guy who said "other people transmogging things disrupts gameplay" was wrong.

    Raubahn gives into his inner beast. I just watched the movie a couple hours ago.

    Dude's a warrior.
    He aint trained in Abalathian axework. Therefore not a warrior.
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    No other class gives into their inner beast.

    He's a warrior.

    An axe does not a warrior make.
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    I am the Fist of Retribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    No other class gives into their inner beast.

    He's a warrior.

    An axe does not a warrior make.
    Well, since you say that. How bout finding the quote that states that he gave into his inner beast? To me it just looked like he got a bit angry. Giving in to your inner beast makes you attack anyone in sight. Raubahn was still purposefully attacking those who wrought him wrong. Not any random member of the party.
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    Last edited by Enur; 01-13-2017 at 12:29 AM. Reason: making wording sound less annoyed

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