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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    How am I to take the lore as the answer to all things when there is a jump potion coming that will allow you to skip 75 percent of it. So if someone can pay to skip all dungeons but have them checked even tho they have never done them , have all msq checked even if they arent really completed.

    If the devs are doing this to me that says well lore is important but getting players to enjoy the game is even more important, so maybe some of the players should just stop taking things so serious and just let others play how they would like to.

    The lore argument is dead with what the devs have decided to do to their own story , so if people can skip the actual lore then why on earth would you restrict gear because of lore reasons that would just really be stupid. So if you want your drk , pali , warrior to look traditional have at it, but I want my whm to look like a warrior mage then let me do the same thing, after all me doing this would not effect your game play in any way shape or farm.
    You're not even reading posts you reply to, are you? You can stop, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    You're not even reading posts you reply to, are you? You can stop, now.
    I actually am I read what you said and your reason isnt a reason other than well I dont think it should happen so it shouldn't. You have no reason other than this , I was just explaining how the devs will do what needs to be done to make the player base happy and from the looks of the op's post more people agreed with him than not so you are actually in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I actually am I read what you said and your reason isnt a reason other than well I dont think it should happen so it shouldn't. You have no reason other than this , I was just explaining how the devs will do what needs to be done to make the player base happy and from the looks of the op's post more people agreed with him than not so you are actually in the minority.
    What reason can someone give you without you dismissing it entirely because of a pig suit? The lore is reason enough for the restrictions, and if that isn't reason enough for you then just accept that the devs don't want mages running around in tank armor and that is that. You might want to look to the freedoms you do have in the game rather than the ones you do not if you want to continue to have an enjoyable experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What reason can someone give you without you dismissing
    This is my favorite game its my main game but the devs contradict their lore all throughout the game so im not gona act like its some holy code. Oh my healer cant wear an armor piece, but yet the devs provide reindeer suits and santa suits for everyone to wear, if you wana talk about lore then there is no Christmas in this realm according to the lore, but there are Christmas trees all over the zones right now, neither would there be a Halloween but we had pumpkins to.

    Thats not lore thats not anything that has to do with the realm but its in the game because its a video game and its meant to be fun. All this well lore says this talk is draining the fun and exploration out of the game, because its not a golden rule it can be changed whenever the people who work on the game want it to change. So if you dont have a problem with people celebrating Christmas on another planet thats not earth, then why on earth would you have a problem with a scholar wearing summoner boots?

    With the current system do you know how many other healers I see wearing the samething the dress with the stomach showing is so common, the full dress, and another peice. Its pretty bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton
    This is my favorite game its my main game but the devs contradict their lore all throughout the game so im not gona act like its some holy code. Oh my healer cant wear an armor piece, but yet the devs provide reindeer suits and santa suits for everyone to wear, if you wana talk about lore then there is no Christmas in this realm according to the lore, but there are Christmas trees all over the zones right now, neither would there be a Halloween but we had pumpkins to.
    It's funny how you say the devs contradict their lore when your statement on seasonal events contradicts how they are ingame, especially since you can't even get their names right. Starlight Celebration (Christmas) and All Saints Wake (Halloween) are actually part of the lore, like how Starlight Celebration originated from Ishgard/Coerthas near the start of the Dragonsong War, while All Saints Wake is about the saints ascending to the celestial realm of the Twelve, leaving Eorzea temporarily vulnerable to increased amounts of creatures of darkness showing up.

    When it comes to the gear obtained from those events, they all have to be tagged as All Classes/Lvl 1 (due to the fact that they'd want everyone to be able to wear it), and their glamour system is likely coded in such a way that it simply allows glamouring of anything that says "All Classes".

    While I still think they could lessen the restrictions on glamours (like the crafted skirt I mentioned in a previous reply), job-defining gear should remain exclusive to the job it's part of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    It's funny how you say the devs contradict their lore when
    Im of both minds give more options are just let us make the options doesnt matter to me because at the end of the day it is just gear and thats all. If I want story if I want lore thats called msq or job quest.

    But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.

    If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy. If enough people wanted this then those opposers would just have to suck it up just like the people that want it to change now are doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.
    It does. The art-team designs those gear thats for one specific class for this one specific class and thats influencing how they're designing it in order to represent that one class best. If you lift the restriction on it thats obviously gone and we will see a lot more of generic armour because after all everyone can wear everything on any job. Look how generic and recycled the shared pieces look already!
    Let the art-team design those special gear for one specific job to give them the chance to make it fit that one job really well because its only meant for that one job.

    And please... stop using "but we can do silly stuff with [bikini/pig suit/maid costume/event gear/etc.] already!" as an excuse - that stuff is meant to be funny and silly while the real gear isnt (...except for the last SMN-set, maybe). That gear was designd with the idea of it being funny in mind, while artifact gear (or other restricted gear for that matter) was designed with something else in mind.
    As flattering as it might be for the design-team that you like certain parts so much you just want to wear them with every class (and yes please, we could use a few more nice shoes/high boots for all classes) I also feel its a bit... disrespectful towards the dev-team to tell them "Because you put this one funny thing in, I demand you to give me everything now!" and not respect that they might have other plans in mind (as in: keeping an eye on job-identity and not letting tanks wear robs or have mages run around in heavy armour)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But please answer me this nobody has answered how does what Im suggesting effect you in a dungeon , raid, or whatever kinda content you like to run on the game. Other than your oppositon there is really no reason at all to why it that would drastically change the way you proceed in combat. This idea doesnt effect anything other than people dont like the idea of it.
    This is a pretty boring rebuttal, it can be said about pretty much anything 'for the sake of more options'. Why do you feel like you should be able to wear the iconic WHM AF robe while you're on a DRK? Please think of an answer that doesn't include the seasonal event gear (already addressed that), or something along the lines of 'cause more options is good'.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy. If enough people wanted this then those opposers would just have to suck it up just like the people that want it to change now are doing so.
    Not being able to wear a WHM AF robe on a DRK isn't really going to affect the amount of new players joining the game. On the other hand, having to finish the ARR, Heavensward and Stormblood MSQ to get to the expansion after that likely will. Lore is important to SE, but so is a steady stream of new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy.
    As if that argument had any substance... if they really didn't care about the lore, they'd start people at Lv60 and remove any inkling of MSQ from the game. Don't even go there because players still have the option of going through MSQ. Also, what does MSQ have to do with it when there's approximately 13~ eras prior to our current one that is considered part of lore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If lore was so important the devs would stick to their code of forcing u to do msq to get through content but they cut corners with ( introducing a jump potion) to make people happy. If enough people wanted this then those opposers would just have to suck it up just like the people that want it to change now are doing so.
    Is seriously every single idea that does not work for some reason going to be bounced back to the whole jump potion nonsense?
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