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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The gear is not restricted to you. If you want to wear it, you have to level the respective job to the appropriate level to do so. That is the restriction, and we don't hear a bunch people saying, "Hey! I'm a warrior. What's with this level restriction? I should be able to wear everything available for a warrior." You are essentially saying the same thing with wanting to remove role restrictions on gear.
    Even when I do level the respective job (which I have!), I still can't glamour it how I want. But no, wanting level restrictions gone is NOT the same thing. I want to be able to use the gear that I earned. Not nearly the same thing as someone coming in at level 1 and wanting to use level 50 armor as their glamour. (Though to be honest, I have played both Rift and WildStar where there are no level restrictions, and it is quite fun making 12+ outfits for my new character that look awesome.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Still need to draw a line somewhere though and the line makes most sense at the job specific gear. It was made for those jobs and it should stay for those jobs.
    You don't, actually. Other MMO wardrobe systems have shown that when there are no lines, people are quite happy to let their creativity go wild and create outfits unique to their character. I will never see how folk can think that limiting options leads to diversity - it just makes groups of people look the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Even when I do level the respective job (which I have!), I still can't glamour it how I want. But no, wanting level restrictions gone is NOT the same thing. I want to be able to use the gear that I earned. Not nearly the same thing as someone coming in at level 1 and wanting to use level 50 armor as their glamour. (Though to be honest, I have played both Rift and WildStar where there are no level restrictions, and it is quite fun making 12+ outfits for my new character that look awesome.)
    Also, wearing a piece of gear and wearing a glamour of that piece of gear is not the same thing. For the first I can see why there would be restrictions. But for just wearing an illusion of a particular piece of gear? No logical or lore-based reason at all.


    Personally I am used to the far more flexible system used in Lord of the Rings Online, where using the wardrobe system lets anyone cosmetically equip any piece of gear whatsoever. Still restrictions on what armour etc. you can actually wear and get stats from, but for looks anything goes. Just because it is a newly created character it does not mean one is limited to a mismatched assembly of whatever one happened to pick up.

    Restrictions on glamour in this game are just silly - and personally I see no merit at all to any of the arguments brought forward here for keeping restrictions, except maybe the one about it requiring rework of some code, but that is just work.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I will never see how folk can think that limiting options leads to diversity - it just makes groups of people look the same.
    Because not everyone is you and shares all of your opinions? I also never mentioned diversity as a reason for my post or my reasons for drawing the line...you picked out the last thing I said without paying attention to the rest of my post.

    Some people like having the iconic FF series gear linked to the jobs and job specific gear in general because they love the Final Fantasy series and they love their favourite job and feel like the gear compounds the job's identity and they enjoy that aspect. I love the WHM Orison set so much I almost wish I could use it on any healer but I just don't think that needs to happen because it wasn't made for anything but WHM.

    I said the line needs to be drawn somewhere in order to make a compromise to cater to both sides. Open up the other gear, but keep the job specific gear locked to the job still. That way if people want more choices they have a lot more, and people who like to have some gear specific to jobs can keep those (FYI most of the gear in the game is not job specific).

    It's called a compromise for a reason; if you ignore one side of it it just becomes selfishness. Other MMOs are not FFXIV so comparing their communities is a waste of time. Most other MMOs are not linked to a iconic series that has been around since 1987 and has certain aspects that make it part of the FF series.
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